Where you ACTUALLY see England finishing in the WC?

As a Rangers and a tartan Army fan/member I definitely see your team in the semi-finals.

Watching the predicted team today on sky sports I can see your Strengths and of course weaknesses, well at least compared against the rest of the world if you know what I mean.

Personally I dont think you have had a a decent keeper or strong keeper since the long pony tailed one.

Beckham's inclusion is like taking a lucky charm abroad and to be fair I think you have to move on, thank him but leave him behind.

Defence regardless of the bridge/ terry thing is fairly sorted.

Midfield again is certainly one of the strongest especially in the middle. The Walcott, Baines etc etc will sort itself out.

Forwards Rooney is on fire and if on the same form and allowed the same freedom could possible win the thing on his own, unlike Fletcher when he plays for us cant string a pass. Crouch I think has to be the guy up with him.

To be fair the whole of Britain would honestly really really be behind England if it weren't for the commentators bleating on and on about 1966 and that they are definitely winning to then tare a new arse off of the manager when they dont.
 
I think we'll reach the semifinals at best. Which, to be fair, would be a pretty decent achievement. We're ranked 8th or so in the world and haven't reached a semi in 20 years, so it would actually be punching above our weight, contrary to the usual hype that makes you think our 'golden generation' should be winning every match they play.

Edit: Oh, one more thing. How do people think we'd do if Rooney got a bad injury and missed the tournament (just curious to see how much weighting put on his value to the team and how much that would affect their prediction)?
 
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HangTime said:
Edit: Oh, one more thing. How do people think we'd do if Rooney got a bad injury and missed the tournament (just curious to see how much weighting put on his value to the team and how much that would affect their prediction)?
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To be perfectly honest, he doesn't seem to perform *that* well for England, certainly not game-clinchingly well IMO, so I would say the same.

It is possible of course that he *could* win a game on his own just with one moment of magic, that we'd miss if he wasn't playing, but yeah I think it's unlikely.
 
chris74 said:
Personally I dont think you have had a a decent keeper or strong keeper since the long pony tailed one.

Beckham's inclusion is like taking a lucky charm abroad and to be fair I think you have to move on, thank him but leave him behind.

Defence regardless of the bridge/ terry thing is fairly sorted.

Midfield again is certainly one of the strongest especially in the middle. The Walcott, Baines etc etc will sort itself out.

Forwards Rooney is on fire and if on the same form and allowed the same freedom could possible win the thing on his own, unlike Fletcher when he plays for us cant string a pass. Crouch I think has to be the guy up with him.
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Defence is sorted? Terrys form in the past month has been absymal, mistake after mistake, if his league form continues to be bad, why expect a great performance in the world cup. Upson's never showed he can be the best, Brown is a horrible right back, Johnson is a horrible right back defensively whose shown up time and again against the half decent in our league, let alone the worlds best wingers, Ribery, Messi, Ronaldo, Robinho, Henry and a dozen others they'll rip him a new one. Rio hasn't played 3 games in a row in so long its a joke, shows no signs of improving and hasn't shown great form due to lack of games.

Cole is highly unlikely to be back for the world cup if you ask me, bad injury, awful personal life, he's got 3 months in which to sit around utterly depressed and angry, he's got more chance of becoming a stupid fat drunk than getting back from injury in peak form. Bridge won't play with Terry, Baines "might" be good enough.

Midfield, Barry is a deadweight, Gerrard sucks for England and has been poor compared to usual for Liverpool, rarely fit for long, Carrick is useless when pressed, we have no quality defensive midfields at all. England have great wingers, but we keep starting midgets, OAP's and Gerrard on the wings, wooo.


Rooney, theres plenty of strikers in great form on the world scene, Rooney won't create chances, or stop us conceding. ROoney has a boring game against Burnley, and pops up with two late goals and Utd win, England would be 3-0 down to Brazil before Rooney picks up a late goal. IF as is seemingly likely, we start him alongside Heskey and the likes, Rooney will have zero service.

WE play boring uninspired football under Capello, which is the usual for him. We look like we don't know how to break teams down until they tire, slow down and start making mistakes. You can count on Egypt and other poor teams to make those mistakes often enough we can take advantage, we can't count on Brazil, Spain and the rest to make enough mistakes to help out our lack of cohesion and creativity and our defence certainly can't be trusted to keep them from scoring even if we don't make mistakes.
 
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Ages ago on this forum I made the prediction that I still stand by.

We will do well in the groups, which will cause the media to go into a frenzy of look look we're going to win the world cup !! Then the very first match where we have to play a top 10 ranked team, we will get knocked out.
 
I don't think we've got what it takes to get past any of the teams ranked above us really. Maybe if we have our absolute first team (ie Joe and Ashley Cole back) and everyone is on top form then yes, but we just never ever seem to gel as a team. I am more confident this time round with the squad having a month to prepare rather than 2 weeks or less, but still think we'll struggle against the likes of Germany and France, let alone Spain/Brazil.

So, Quarters unless we get a big dollop of luck then.
 
If we finish 1st in our group I think we'll go out in the semis to Brazil. Don't really see Ghana being much of a threat and France aren't the team they once were. If we finish second I think we could possibly reach the final depending on whether Italy beat Spain or not. Italy are very beatable imo, Spain aren't.
 
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If we finish 1st in our group I think we'll go out in the semis to Brazil. Don't really see Ghana being much of a threat and France aren't the team they once were. If we finish second I think we could possibly reach the final depending on whether Italy beat Spain or not. Italy are very beatable imo, Spain aren't.
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Is there a site with the group/knockout phase where you can set the winners etc. to see different match ups?
 
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