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Which 5090?

naefeart

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Which of the two cards seems best from an ownership pov:

Asus GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral OC White 32GB​


MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32GB SUPRIM SOC​


So excluding silly purchase costs, which has the best perceived build quality, most effective cooling system and anticipated longterm reliability/better RMA process? I’m particularly focused on not melting any cables, but both seem to draw 600w plus in testing. Undervolting should help here.

From my research there is much mention of coil whine, specifically for the ASUS card, the MSI not so much. The MSI seems to have slightly better cooling and at a quieter level.

I’m not looking to rehash the value debate, I have the money to spend and I won’t be feeding the kids baked beans from here on. Well, not based on this alone.

I’m coming from a Zotac 4090 Amp Extreme which has been faultless over the last 2.5 years, but I think for the 5090 gen, these two cards offer better features/performance this time around.

Interested in people’s thoughts.
 
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Asus Astral gets my vote as it has better PCB components and better VRM. Out of the two options you wanted, but if being realistic a 5090 FE if you can get one and also going from a 4090 to 5090 for gaming is really a waste of money and time, UNLESS you need the 32GB VRAM for other things then yes worth updating to a 5090 from a 4090.

ASUS

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ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 Astral OC Review - Astronomical Premium

The ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 Astral is the company's $2800 flagship RTX 5090 model. It comes with a massive quad-slot, quad-fan cooling solution that weighs over 3 kilograms! Thanks to the large factory overclock it can deliver additional performance and temperatures are very low.
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MSI

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MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC Review

The MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC is the best RTX 5090 custom design that we've tested. Thanks to its large cooling solution, paired with perfect fan settings, it's the quietest card available, much quieter than the Founders Edition. Thanks to the factory OC you also get some extra performance.
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Super similar thermals and performance on both those cards. I'd go with whichever costs less and has a better warranty. I'd stay away from Asus personally due to the reports of RMA fraud on their part.

I will say my Zotac 5090 Solid has been flawless, and runs within spitting distance of those other two models. Not sure if 3-4% faster clocks is worth the extra several hundred clams to you.
 
Thanks for the responses, I must admit the reports of poor RMA experiences with ASUS (more seem to happen in the US?) does lean me more towards MSI this time. But as Purgatory points out the ASUS has plus points around components etc.

I’ve ruled Zotac out this time purely because the Solid isn’t that much cheaper and looks a bit underwhelming, even compared to the Suprim imo.

Is anyone swayed by the pin monitoring on the ASUS card?
 
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Purgatory said:
I forgot to even mention that, that also in my book makes it the safer and better card thanks to these silly new connectors. Really the Astral is the no-brainer out of the two.
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Zotac has a monitor on the plug itself. Also 5-year warranty... ;)

That said, for same price I'd definitely take the Astral or Suprim for the bigger HS and resale value will likely be better.
 
I also have the zotac solid, no complaints on the performance but completely agree on looks.
 
They’re both good cards, and I tend to personally prefer ASUS hardware. They’re innovators and always have useful features in their products first.

But I’ve had bad experiences with astral cards and fan noise twice now which is why I’ve stuck with the Suprim.

I wouldn’t base your decision on the pin monitoring, there’s more value in buying a psu with functional 12vhpwr monitors that shut down before damage.

Seasonics optiguard will likely be top notch when that launches but I believe there’s a couple of psu’s with similar features available now.
 
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So I’ve taken a punt on the MSI card this time around. I was all set to go ASUS but found I couldn’t ignore all the negativity around coil whine and noise in general. It was comparatively difficult to find any negative comments re the MSI card.

Fingers crossed I get a good card, time will tell.
 
Congrats. I’d advise against using the supplied yellow “octopus” adapter and use a native 12vhpwr from your power supply.

I’ve seen too many burnt MSI connectors.

I’m assuming as you have a 4090 you’ve got a psu with a native cable anyway.

Oh and a anti-sag bracket is a good idea. I’ve never bothered with them on the 4090 but the 5090 genuinely feels like it needs one.

I bought a decent one from Amazon that holds it up in two places. You get one with the card but it wouldn’t have worked in my case and I find it better to have support in different places.

 
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I’ll use the 12V-2x6 cable that comes with the PSU. I had hoped this issue would die with the 40 series cards, but here we are again.

Yeah MSI’s anti-sag bracket is rather disappointing; plastic and not that sturdy. I’ve gone with a Lian Li vertical mount kit that also includes a metal anti-sag bracket. That should keep it in check.

I’ll also undervolt the card to be extra cautious, that’s really all I can do to mitigate issues.

Are you happy with your Suprim?
 
naefeart said:
Are you happy with your Suprim?
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Well my PC is up for sale on these forums (will likely just keep it due to a lack of interest)but that’s not a reflection of the card, just not being able to justify having over £5000 worth of pc used for Kodi. And the fact that a load of games I really want are all on the ps5, ghost of yotei, wolverine, and gta 6 with no sign of pc releases.

But yeah I’ve been happy with it. It’s the 3rd Suprim I’ve had 3090-4090 and 5090 and they’ve all had good fan acoustics and great build quality. I’ve had astrals and founders and was disappointed with scraping fans on the astral, and loudness of the founders edition.

It’s running at 850mV at 2700MHz with a +1000MHz in the memory clock and has really good temps on core and memory.

Depending on the game I tend to hover at anywhere between 200 to 350watts at 120fps.

I’ve set an alert on hwinfo to play a sound and throw a pop up window if my 12vhpwr drops below 11.85V.

The plan would be to get a new Seasonic power supply once they launch their optiguard as that’ll have temp and current monitors that will detect increases in temps, and abnormal pin loading that acts accordingly before damage is caused.

That’ll be a really good safeguard and I’d trust that more than a wire view pro or something.
 
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