which do you think is faster?
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PMKeates said:
yea, better off using a 2.0 cosworth turbo engine which is not only bucket loads quicker but also far better on economy.
its easy to make a powerful engine, but making one thats fast and economic is just gonna have to be handed to the japs and the italians.
PMKeates said:
Language.
Missed a couple of TVRs that used it off my list as well.
Interesting that you say that, though. If you get a version that doesn't have siamesed ports they're actually rather good - pretty tuneable, not the most refined but they do have a decent amount of poke. Cosworth did a DOHC version as well which is quite nice.
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[TW]Fox said:
No, but then none of the applications over here warranted the extra capacity. Not as if the Sierra and Granada exactly overburdened the 2.8/2.9 version is it?
maybe the new engine they are making will be more of a challenge for the 130ps escort xr3i 1.8 zetec? or possibly the escort rs2000 2.0 non turbo 150bhp. either way i doubt it will touch it in economy.
america needs to be slapped with legistations like we have in the uk on emmissions from cars etc.
america needs to be slapped with legistations like we have in the uk on emmissions from cars etc.
[TW]Fox said:
The Mustang is a bit of an oddity like that. Virtually every other |Ford car that uses a V6 moved over to the Duratec line as soon as that entered production. Some trucks (the Ranger in particular) carried on using the Cologne as it's a bit tougher than the Duratec when abused. But the Taurus and other Ford cars all use Duratecs.
I'm not honestly certain why the Mustang has kept the Cologne.
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Cyber-Mav said:
LOL, don't be daft! American emissions laws in various states are way, way harsher than ours. That's why type approval of TVRs, Lotuses etc for the US market has always been a pain in the arse.
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wohoo said:
problem is the escort engines can last but its the body work thats gonna crap out on it. salt roads with non galvanised car bodies just doesn;t seem to go well.
the 1.8 escort my cousin has got with 154k on the clock is still mechanically going strong but the rust around the arches and sill is just crazy and its gonna get clocked on the mot due to its sil rust before it has any mechanical trouble.
very had to find mint bodywork ones these days in the uk.
anyone know from what date onwards are cars in general in the uk using galvanised metals?
JRS said:
what about that dodge viper, its emmissions must be off the scale, although when my bro went to florida last week he said he didn;t see any vipers around. must be that 8ltr engine and its petrol drinkage scaring away buyers? or is it that the emission laws have banned the use of the viper?
Is this not a bit of a silly comparison?
The 'stang is a bottom of the range cabriolet.
The Euro equivalent is something like a Megane CC 1.6.
The mustang is probably cheaper and faster than one of those
I know which I'd rather drive across the US in
The 'stang is a bottom of the range cabriolet.
The Euro equivalent is something like a Megane CC 1.6.
The mustang is probably cheaper and faster than one of those
I know which I'd rather drive across the US in
Cyber-Mav said:
....what?
The Viper meets emissions regulations for all of the states. As does the Saleen S7. And the Corvette Z06. And every other +6 litre American car in production today. Hell, the Z06 'vette manages to avoid the Gas Guzzler tax generally levied on cars like that.
Last time I checked, the Viper didn't drink that heavily. It's a slow revving brute, and very tall geared, so in 6th at highway speeds it's barely above idle. The new Viper on it's way soon has a new 8.4 litre V10 with VVT and other refinements so should be even better. 600 hp as well
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Cyber-Mav said:
Why should it? Because it's larger displacement? In that case, why doesn't a BMW 750i 'obliterate' a Ferrari F40? After all - the engine is larger.
Fact is - the Mustang V6 does what it says on the tin, it's a cheap drop-top boulevard cruiser. Not quick, not that good on a country lane, not really all that musical compared to the V8 ones. It's not supposed to be.
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JRS said:....what?
The Viper meets emissions regulations for all of the states. As does the Saleen S7. And the Corvette Z06. And every other +6 litre American car in production today. Hell, the Z06 'vette manages to avoid the Gas Guzzler tax generally levied on cars like that.
Last time I checked, the Viper didn't drink that heavily. It's a slow revving brute, and very tall geared, so in 6th at highway speeds it's barely above idle. The new Viper on it's way soon has a new 8.4 litre V10 with VVT and other refinements so should be even better. 600 hp as well
yikes a 8.4ltr
shocking to say the least.also do these american cars use cam belts or are they all chain driven? im gonna gess chain since they got to do a lot of mileages and people don;t want to do belt changes often?
could be wrong though and they could use a good mix of belts and chains'?
Cyber-Mav said:
Not if the stoneage 4.0 V6 costs less to make the than 1.8.
The basic mustang is a very cheap car (for it's weight
), ford could do 4.0V6 with 400bhp if they liked, but it's no use to them if it makes the car cost twice as much!