realistically you'd want 6000mhz ram tbh. don't forget that the igpu performance scales with the ram speed.
slow ram speeds will gimp both the cpu and the igpu. but as the igpu is already slow, the effect will be more pronounced on the igpu
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slow ram speeds will gimp both the cpu and the igpu. but as the igpu is already slow, the effect will be more pronounced on the igpu
I did read that 5200 is more than ample but, I will look at that ta.
Otherwise, mobo ok?
yeah it'll be fine
What about a PSU? Any brand that is recommended these days? I guess 750watt would be max needed?
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if you wanted to save a few quid i'd just get this instead: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-micro-atx-motherboard-mot-gig-03566.html
the bios should be updated enough to run the 8600g without any further updates, but if it can't then the board has q-flash plus which allows the bios to update without the cpu installed
i would just get this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...0-plus-bronze-power-supply-pow-msi-03345.html
the bios should be updated enough to run the 8600g without any further updates, but if it can't then the board has q-flash plus which allows the bios to update without the cpu installed
lol even a 300w psu is overkill for an igpu system
i would just get this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...0-plus-bronze-power-supply-pow-msi-03345.html
I want modular and a bit more power in it just in case I decide to get a dedicated GPU in the future..if you wanted to save a few quid i'd just get this instead: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-micro-atx-motherboard-mot-gig-03566.html
the bios should be updated enough to run the 8600g without any further updates, but if it can't then the board has q-flash plus which allows the bios to update without the cpu installed
lol even a 300w psu is overkill for an igpu system
i would just get this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...0-plus-bronze-power-supply-pow-msi-03345.html
honestly modular is overrated, the psu shroud hides all the cables anyway so it makes not one jot of difference
a 650w will power a 9070 (220w) easily, so unless you are thinking of something more power hungry then a 650w psu is fine (by more power hungry i mean the 5070ti/9070xt and above)
a 650w will power a 9070 (220w) easily, so unless you are thinking of something more power hungry then a 650w psu is fine (by more power hungry i mean the 5070ti/9070xt and above)
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as long as you don't buy some cheap brand, most PSU are quite now days unless you are maxing it out for hours on end.
Asus, msi, lian li, corsair, seasonic, be-quite, personally myself prefer corsair and seasonic. If memory is correct apart from seasonic the rest don't make their own PSU but subcontract OEM to make their PSU. I think seasonic also make some of ASUS PSU, like the Loki and Thor series. Make sure you get one with good warranty duration.
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Any half decent one will be silent at the wattage level this build will consume.
Most don't turn on the fan until they are pulling at least 200W.
I'd be wary of a bronze rated one if used much as the efficiency can be very poor and especially at low wattage.
I'd rather pay more for a better PSU and it might payback the difference in reduced running costs over time.
If you might want to add a GPU down the line, choose one that is fanless until 300W or so.
Any that you recommend with that in mind?
Is this a decent one:
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Have you decided on a case/motherboard format?
It has some bearing on the PSU, like if you went with Lian Li's A3, a compact PSU like Phanteks AMP GH is better if going ATX. If you're going ITX, it may require SFX.
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I only look at reviews mainly when I am in the market to buy so not up to date.
Look at what's available at a reasonable price then look at reviews that compare it with other units.
I am not sure of the best sites.
I have, see page 2
Ah.
Says max length: 165mm. That's not very much, but I assume it doesn't include cables, in which case most PSUs would fit.
The Corsair PSU I listed is 140mm in length...is it a decent PSU?
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They're not bad, second tier units, but the RMe doesn't have the best reputation (especially the newer models). I'd look at be quiet's 13 M in that price range, but is a longer PSU than the RMe.
This is not a good spec really, sign of the times we are in, it's almost £700 when done, you might actually be better off with the prebuilt boxes you were looking at earlier, I mean for ~800 you get something like a Aoostar gt37 (many other brands with similar boxes) with a hx370 which has best normal AMD APU, 32Gb 8000 ram, 1Tb ssd, yes its upgradability is lesser but this system being specced here with 16Gb and expecting to run off a lower spec iGPU, it's not the best, sure your build will have a benefit is that it will take a dGPU but if it is not really on the cards you'll be stuck with something lacklustre.
To be honest you are going to do better with a prebuilt from the like of Lenovo like the LOQ tower or a HP Omen even Dell etc where they haven't gone nuts with pricing yet, it's not going to be as sexy but you'll have a decent CPU 16-32Gb + 5050/5060 level GPU for under 1k far better experience
You could achieve similar on the build you have specced, just drop iGPU gaming, fine for small screen handhelds but if you want to run on a 27" screen or something you want some graphical details and not trying to run 1080p super low with scaling, I'd drop the 8600G for a 7600 and add a 5050 or 5060 dGPU, it's going to be a far better experience as the dGPU has its own RAM so 16Gb is not so limiting and of course is way more powerful than any iGPU Strix Halo included. I am assuming you have around 1k considering what your were hooning in on originally with Geekom.
My changes to your basket at OcUK:
Obviously you can cut other corners like a lesser GPU, cheaper mobo etc. lesser CPU, a 7400 is the same CPU as a 8600G for example without iGPU but goes for £130 but really the extra cache of the 7600 is better for games. You could up CPU to a 9600 to get PCIe gen 5 for not much more but I don't know that the extra 30quid will get you any extra perf.
Left field choice £300 at box gets you a Claw A1M 155H handheld, it will be more powerful ...just... than the system you have specced and you can chill on the sofa playing games
zero upgradeability though, well it does have thunderbolt port so an eGPU is doable.
To be honest you are going to do better with a prebuilt from the like of Lenovo like the LOQ tower or a HP Omen even Dell etc where they haven't gone nuts with pricing yet, it's not going to be as sexy but you'll have a decent CPU 16-32Gb + 5050/5060 level GPU for under 1k far better experience
You could achieve similar on the build you have specced, just drop iGPU gaming, fine for small screen handhelds but if you want to run on a 27" screen or something you want some graphical details and not trying to run 1080p super low with scaling, I'd drop the 8600G for a 7600 and add a 5050 or 5060 dGPU, it's going to be a far better experience as the dGPU has its own RAM so 16Gb is not so limiting and of course is way more powerful than any iGPU Strix Halo included. I am assuming you have around 1k considering what your were hooning in on originally with Geekom.
My changes to your basket at OcUK:
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £160.99
- 1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 5060 Ghost 8GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GNW-05237) = £278.99
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR5 5200MHz CL40 EXPO XMP Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-06663) = £199.99
- 1 x Jonsbo RM3-Black/Window Micro-ATX (SKU: CA-00F-JB) = £89.99
- 1 x Aerocool Integrator 500W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply (SKU: CA-23M-AE) = £37.99
- 1 x Sapphire Nitro+ B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05690) = £139.99
Total: £919.93 (includes delivery: £11.98)
Obviously you can cut other corners like a lesser GPU, cheaper mobo etc. lesser CPU, a 7400 is the same CPU as a 8600G for example without iGPU but goes for £130 but really the extra cache of the 7600 is better for games. You could up CPU to a 9600 to get PCIe gen 5 for not much more but I don't know that the extra 30quid will get you any extra perf.
Left field choice £300 at box gets you a Claw A1M 155H handheld, it will be more powerful ...just... than the system you have specced and you can chill on the sofa playing games
zero upgradeability though, well it does have thunderbolt port so an eGPU is doable.
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Minisforum might be worth a look.
Looking at the prices I definitely cough up the extra for 8700G. 2 cores, 4 threads and the 780M graphics for an extra £60 is a bit of bargain IMO.
Looking at the prices I definitely cough up the extra for 8700G. 2 cores, 4 threads and the 780M graphics for an extra £60 is a bit of bargain IMO.
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