Which Warm hatch....

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Hi all, Just wondering if you could help me select a “warm” hatch!

Been reading the forums some time, and they are a good laugh ("what is a hot hatch" topic springs to mind) so finally joined, will probably be in the pc section as much as here.

This is my outgoing car and reason for sale,
Ibiza 04 2.0 8v “sport” with 48k on the clock, to sum it up, good build quality, niggling starting issues, Very poor performance while drinking fuel, if it was quicker the mpg would not bother me (low to mid 20mpg around the doors, low 30’s on a run)
I did not choose it, it is the partners and we have sold my car (boooo).


The car in question I am after needs to have some requirements:

Ideally be 05 at the oldest (imposed by partner)
A warm hatch speed of 0-60 in 8 seconds or lower
As depreciation proof as feasibly possible.......
I am happy with up to 60k on the clock
Mpg not a major worry only do about 6k per year as we both commute to work


All with a budget of 4-6 k

My initial though was a Ford Fiesta St, however I have read a lot of reports that they depreciate like stones. They are relatively expensive in the north. 6-7k for a 06-07 plate or 8k for a 08. Around the forums I have heard people say they would not spend more than 3-4, well around here 4.5 is where they start and that’s for an old one with a lot of miles on. I did see one that went quickly that was 5 k low mileage 06, but that’s the only one around this area with more realistic pricing.

Potential cars

Mazda 3 2.0 06 plate low mileage 5k (slow?)

Focus 2.0 06 plate 5k (slow?)

Swift sport various (slow?)

Leon, either a 2.0 sport or a 2.0 tfsi (not the fr its out the price range) not sure if I can live with the major platicky interior, I actually prefer the old shape but none with sensible miles around here. A golf would be nice but it’d have to be a mk5 which seem out of price range!

Fiesta st, various, poor depreciation.

Colt CZT specs seemed perfect but I do not think I could live with the interior or general car look.


Civics ruled out friends have the newer shape which is out of budget, also the few old shape ones I have seen have had star ship miles on.

If it was just me I would buy something old like an mr2, escort rs2000/sirocco/ corrado or something with a rover or mg badge on maybe a zr 160. But sadly my option of picking the car has the age stipulation (and no rover/mgs); yes she knows exactly what I would buy an old wreck probably!



Advice appreciated !:D
 
4-6k is quite a large spread of budget...

Certianly is, im cheap so would rather get something cheaper.

I keep thinking if I get something cheaper I will be allowed a project car at a later date but I think im dreaming !


In response to other comments

I plan on owning the car 2-3 years.

It does not have to be under 8 seconds but I would prefer to have a sportier car while I am not concerned about mpg.

The best shout is probably the LCR, I would settle for just a cupra but not seen many about. I do know where there is a red cupra R may have another look at that.

As for the A3 I was looking at a 05 3.2 but it was 7k a bit over what I wanted to pay.
 
Make up your mind!!

I see what you mean but the key to that was "very poor performance while drinking fuel"
if it was quick it would not bother me, but the 2.0 8v unit is far from it.

I would consider another ibiza a cupra maybe, but there are not a lot around and I think I prefer the leon.

Someone mentioned an mx 5 looked at one which had a hard top, but the girlfriend does not want one encase we have children in the future.

Wait wait wait, so none of these are hot or warm hatches?
I will have to go for a mk 4 golf, the really quick one, the gti with the 2.0 8valve
waiiit a minute....

As for the depreciation if I sold said car in 2-3 years I would be happy to get 2k, the ibiza has held its value similarly. What I do not want to do is overpay for something because they are more expenisve here then get a low amount.
 
I will admit I haven't driven the S, but my GF has a Cooper. As an all round car its nice, it's just crying out for more power. Does the S not delivery that then?

You could get an 05 Cooper for £6k though I imagine?

A cooper perhaps, not an S.

What puts me off about the Mini in general is the change in engines and shape at 06 age which is out of my price range.

Nice cars though, I actually learned and did my test in one, it was a cooper.

The civic type R is good, but a bit far away. (im based in north east)

Should mention that I will be buying from a garage so prices will be inflated anyway as i will be trading in the ibiza.
 
The cupra R is a cracking car, I suggest driving that one, even if it is red (though I think its ambitiously priced). Can't say the ST would even get a look in for me assuming a choice between the two - but if you like both then there's no harm checking them out.

The only other Cupra R around has 70k on it and is about £500 more!

I must admit in the flesh that one looked nice in red.

A lot of prices are inflated, I do like the Fiesta (I have had 3 fords in past) but would never pay 7k for one i dont think.

http://www.tynesideautoparc.co.uk/Used-Cars/Honda/Under-5000/LC53YJZ-Honda-Civic-Type-r-3d-2.0.html

just to old ! might be able to get a slightly newer one under 6.

shame about my poor experience with renault as this seems keenly priced

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...t/postcode/ne270ll/page/1/radius/40?logcode=p

this is nice below but a bit much I think

http://www.tynesideautoparc.co.uk/Used-Cars/Seat/Sports-Prestige/OU05LLG-Seat-Leon-Fr-Tdi-1.9.html
 
Shame, there are 20+ within 100 miles of me that same age from anywhere between 5 and 6k asking.

You could find a decent type r for your budget I'm sure, dont buy a stinky diesel leon though, that's not what you want.

Dont know if I would have a 197 personally, nothing to do with it being french though just not really my cup of tea

Yer prices here are inflated, theres also less performance cars in the area, sadly this doesnt seem to count when you come to sell.

seen this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ge/1/postcode/ne270ll/keywords/type?logcode=p

Might check it over weekend i know its over the miles but it seems a good example


Oh this was the other LCR

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...tcode/ne270ll/page/1/keywords/cupra?logcode=p
 
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