Which X2 amd is the best overclocker?

Compared with Conroe, no AM2 processor is a decent overclocker really...

Since you already need DDR2 ram you might as well go Conroe....
Why?

1) They perform more work per clock cycle...so they are faster when clocked at the same speeds

2) They overclock more than AMD.....for example it seems as if all e6300s clocked at 1.86 are able to go to at least 3+ghz...usually more. Whereas an AMD 4400x2 at 2.2ghz is very lucky to even get to 3ghz...and it's still slower.
 
You would be better going with the conroe.

However, if you are going AMD then the X2 3800 is the best clocker for the price. See here. I think the ASUS M2N-SLi Deluxe is supposed to be a good clocker, especially for the money. Don't know much about the DFI offerings for AM2, but they were definitely the best for S939.
 
From what I've seem, some E6300 are Conroe, but others are Allendale...

I don't know which one I'm going to be getting, but if it's Allendale, is that going to be a poor overclocker?
 
Allendale doesn't exist yet, technically, it's just a common misconception that the 2MB cache C2Ds are allendale. They are in fact conroes, only with half of the cache disabled. They will clock just as well as their full 4MB cache counterparts, an E6300 would pretty easily hit 3GHz, possibly even higher.

Go for the conroe.
 
Well no, it's not really a misconsemption. It is a different chip, maybe not in the achitecture but as like you said the cache size, thats why it has a different name. Very much like Venice cores and San Diego cores!

Anyway, go for the 6300, very good overclocker and superb value for money!! ;)
 
Thermaltake said:
Well no, it's not really a misconsemption. It is a different chip, maybe not in the achitecture but as like you said the cache size, thats why it has a different name. Very much like Venice cores and San Diego cores!

Anyway, go for the 6300, very good overclocker and superb value for money!! ;)
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The core is the same though.
 
not sure which is best but iv had got my 4400 on stock cooler at 2.6 with ease

its 939 tho.

i cant wait to get my hands on a 65nm chip
 
gurusan said:
The core is the same though.
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Yes the architecture is the same, i.e The core! But like he said the cache size is different, this is why they have different names. Conroe/allendale.
 
Thermaltake said:
Yes the architecture is the same, i.e The core! But like he said the cache size is different, this is why they have different names. Conroe/allendale.
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Wikipedia said:
For a very long time, it was considered that stripped down versions of the Conroe processors were code-named Allendale. In actuality, Allendale is a code-name for a different processor. Many suggest that E6300 and E6400 are actually code-named Allendale, however, the E6300 (1.86 GHz) and E6400 (2.13 GHz) processors are not code-named Allendale because they physically have 4 MB cache, same as their big brothers E6600 and E6700 - it is just that half of their physical memory is disabled. Traditionally, CPUs of the same family with less cache simply have the unavailable cache disabled (this allows parts that fail quality control to be sold at a lower rating). The fact that E6300 and E6400 are not code-named Allendale and actually code-named Conroe has been confirmed by Intel themselves.

Quoted from The Tech Report:

You'll find plenty of sources that will tell you the code name for these 2 MB Core 2 Duo processors is "Allendale," but Intel says otherwise. These CPUs are still code-named "Conroe," which makes sense since they're the same physical chips with half of their L2 cache disabled. Intel may well be cooking up a chip code-named Allendale with 2 MB of L2 cache natively, but this is not that chip.[5]

The real Allendale processors, including the E4300, will be released during Q1 2007. The real Allendale processors use a smaller mask with only 2 MB of cache, thereby increasing the number of chips per platter. Allendale processors are LGA775, 65nm chips which have 800MT/s (200MHz * 4) FSB rather than Conroe's 1066MT/s FSB (266MHz * 4).
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