As it is something that would not have happened fifty years ago it is patently a degradation of society, incompetent authorities ripping off local people. Enough said.
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As it is something that would not have happened fifty years ago it is patently a degradation of society, incompetent authorities ripping off local people. Enough said.
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given the issues with fly tipping at the moment, combined with the huge amount of offences blatantly ignored, even if by the letter of the law it isn't allowed it sounds like a stupid one to enforce imo
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We had one in Stoke a couple of years ago.
Woman was given the letter by the Postie, on her way to work she opened it up and threw the envelope in a public bin.
It was a ridiculous fine of around £300.
Woman was given the letter by the Postie, on her way to work she opened it up and threw the envelope in a public bin.
It was a ridiculous fine of around £300.
They aren't fining householders for parking on their drive, they're fining householders for illegally driving over the pavement and parking in their garden.
They aren't fining people for driving onto the pavement and staying there.
Jumping on this just to rant - our local council wouldn't allow us to drop a bit more kerb in front of our house because they have a rule about how much length of dropped kerb each house is allowed. Because our house already had a drop for the existing drive, and that drop remains dropped over to next door, we had exceeded the max allowed length and so they wouldn't let us drop further. I can still get onto the "new" bit of drive across the existing drop by reversing at an angle (and similarly can leave by driving away at an angle to exit over the other neighbour's drop) but it's a pain in the tiddies.
Because they are easy to find and we have 'ambulance chaser' type scrotes willing to assist councils find them for a substantial cut of any fines paid.
Easiest money wrt bin contents would still be that those with dogs pay an additional tax rather than us non owners paying for the council to provide dog waste disposal.
Had a neighbour pave over their front garden for additional parking 5 years back, but was probably against covenants for housing estate, that I recently read; maybe outside 'statute' of limitations now.
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Had a neighbour pave over their front garden for additional parking 5 years back, but was probably against covenants for housing estate, that I recently read; maybe outside 'statute' of limitations now.
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(I am probably wrong) but since when were you not allowed to pave over your lawn of a house you own? of course if you do not own it then its obvious you should not make major changes, but if you do, then i dont see why you would need any form of planning or other permission to concrete / flag / tarmac over your front lawn.
AS for the dropped kerb. I was advised that because a lot of our neighbourhood had beaten us to the punch in dropping their kerb we probably** would not be allowed to (because it removed offstreet parking). Personally i think it should all be residential only parking anyway esp as our estate backs onto a massive public carpark which is almost always 80% empty. (its paid monday-sat but only a few quid), so is kind of annoying when shoppers all line our estate rather than paying £2 to park in the carpark..... but that is by the by its not double yellow so they can. but blocking us dropping the kerb to allow them to do it is a PITA.
we were told however just to drive up over the kerb and park which is what we do...... sometimes we get partially blocked in or out which then means a bit of car tetris to get on or off the drive but we have not been moaned at or fined yet for going up the kerb, neither has anyone else on the estate who cant get dropped kerb (a bunch of us have to do it unless we want to park on the road).
**This was a verbal chat, we could still have applied but it was fairly costly and given we were advised it would likely be refused it didnt seem worth it.
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Since 2008.
Depends if you're using something compliant with sustainable drainage or not, if you use fully permeable materials etc. you're ok, if you don't you're meant to apply for planning permission once you're covering enough area.
Not that it stops most people just throwing down block paving without soakaways or drainage anyway, because who's going to go around grassing up their neighbours for doing their driveway slightly wrong?
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cool good to know. ours is permeable anyway and with run off channels installed to direct around the house if the worst happened
(and the previous owner concreted the entire front lawn before I moved in way before 2008 so I have actually improved drainage since then but that is useful info)
but back on topic i still think prosecuting people for putting a few bits of personal paper in a public bin is a miscarriage of justice.
(I would have less sympathy if they filled one up with their junk)
(and the previous owner concreted the entire front lawn before I moved in way before 2008 so I have actually improved drainage since then but that is useful info)
but back on topic i still think prosecuting people for putting a few bits of personal paper in a public bin is a miscarriage of justice.
(I would have less sympathy if they filled one up with their junk)
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Exactly - spending 5 minutes to send a letter issuing a questionable fine to decent law-abiding citizen is far more "rewarding" (financially!) than chasing up a bunch of "youths" causing trouble
As mentioned in the post you replied to, it may be against a covenant in your property deeds.
Or, and hear me out.
Having the proof of a possible offence, the name and address of the possible offender and having it all in one go that takes 5 minutes to deal with is somewhat easier than locating, witnessing/getting proof of the youths causing "trouble", then identifying them and dealing with it, especially as a lot of the time people complain about "youth's causing trouble" it's nonsense*, not to mention entirely different departments with entirely different man power and legal powers and depending on what sort of "trouble" they're causing it could be something that is dealt with by any of about 4 different council teams or even the police.
*I remember the head of our local "watch group" who basically started the group, and ran it mainly it seemed because he didn't like the local kids playing on the field next to his house, a field that had been council owned and used for play since the first houses had been built near it 40 years earlier. He was a miserable older guy who seemed to hate the fact that there were kids playing and making normal kid noises after school/on non school days (they weren't even particularly noisy).
Exactly!