Who is in the wrong on this one?

I would have gone round in the right lane indicating right until the turn off was coming up then indicated left and changed lanes before turning off.

Bus driver should have anticipated a driver turning right in the left hand lane because he/she would be familiar with the roundabout but even so I think indicators should still be used here.
 
I would have gone round in the right lane indicating right until the turn off was coming up then indicated left and changed lanes before turning off.

Bus driver should have anticipated a driver turning right in the left hand lane because he/she would be familiar with the roundabout but even so I think indicators should still be used here.
Same. Doesn't matter if you shouldn't need to do it, you do unless you want to get crushed by a large vehicle. Personally I keep well away from them.
 
Bus driver defiantly in the wrong. Looking at the street view of it, it's two lanes coming off the M60 that continue around the roundabout, left lane is to go back onto the M60 southbound or round onto the A6144, right lane is also to join the A6144 (merge in turn) or for going onto the M60 northbound. On joining the A6144 it's the much mentioned on here zip like merge in turn principal that a lot of motorists seem to struggle with, but anyway, whenever I pull up next to a vehicle with potentially limited visibility I usually if safe and legal get a move on to get past in case it does cut across, or hold back slightly to judge what it's going to do. It's a similar issue on the M40 junction 9 going onto the A41, all three lanes on the roundabout merge into two on the A41, but the inside lane is also to re-join the M40 in the opposite direction. All too frequently there's some idiot in the middle lane trying to go all the way around because they can't read the clearly drawn out sign posts and those painted on the road.
 
Even though you are right, if you have the accident, due to lack of defensive/attentive driving (like gammawolf ), your premium (but not no claims) will be hiked the following year - no ?
 
OP was in a lane marked out for the exit he was taking, ..Bus driver changed lanes without indicating or checking if there was a car in the lane he was moving into ...bus driver 100% at fault.
 
From what the OP said about lane merges, even without the roundabout being in place the onus is on the bus driver to check his movement is safe. He's the one in the lane that's closing for the merge, so it's up to him to safely merge into the traffic. Similarly the traffic in the other lane should keep a steady speed.

From a driving position point of view I always like to be to the front or rear of a bus/HGV, at least then I can either use my quicker acceleration to get out of the way or have an eye on the bus to brake quickly.
 
If you had come off the motorway from top left of the picture and wanted to go right to where the merge in turn arrows are then you should be in the right hand land of the off slip, indicating right. If you want to back onto the motorway for any reason then you can be in any lane and not indicating as this is straight on. If the original poster was in the left hand lane and wanted to go right then they are in the wrong lane to start off with.

However if the original poster was in the right hand lane and then moved over to the left on the straight whilst crossing the motorway to pre-empt the merge and then the bus drive did same later then the bus driver would be at fault, but as other people said here, best to try to judge a worse case scenario, especially with a bigger vehicle.

Good thing is that everyone escaped ok and we all got to have a good timely reminder also to pop in our bloggins.
 
It wasn't joining the roundabout, it was exiting in a similar scenario to what OP described by effectively turning right from the left lane (The potential collision point is slightly earlier as the other party is intending to go straight instead of right). The below shows it better. Blue was my father, red was the other party. The solid lines were the directions of travel. I added the dotted blue as 99.9% of people use the roundabout as a continuation of the dual carriageway.

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Ah ok, I wondered if that was the route you described, was a little hard to tell.
The only thing I can assume is that the driver of the second vehicle, lets call it red joined after your dad, blue.

Obviously blue failed to to correctly approach the roundabout as he should have been in the lane red approached in. Granted he indicated but thats beside the point.
However if he was close to the next junction he would have been in the same lane as if someone had of entered from that point.

Whilst blue was badly positioned, I assume for red to have hit blue, that red entered the roundabout after blue, and as such you can see why red got the blame, they hit a vehicle already making an maneuver.
Normally the person in red is going faster, thats why they are in that lane so to hit blue they must normally hit a car already negotiating the roundabout.
Assuming blue was indicating as you say then you wonder why red didn't see that and react accordingly. Its not like someone getting in the wrong lane at a roundabout is an uncommon occurence.

Best practice for straight on is the left lane, your far less at risk of someone changing their mind and staying on the roundabout.
In busy traffic I always take the blue line, yes you may loose a little ground to a few cars, but its the safer route, as you avoid the highest risk area, (where the red and blue lines cross)
 
Even though you are right, if you have the accident, due to lack of defensive/attentive driving (like gammawolf ), your premium (but not no claims) will be hiked the following year - no ?

Can be
Its situation and insurer dependent

Its why they ask about no fault incidents though. Whilst technically not the drivers fault, if you end in numerous incidents that are "not your fault" then it tends to indicate your either 1) very unlucky or 2) not very good at reading dangerous situations on the roads, both of which the insurer is likely to want a little extra premium to cover ;)
 
Yep MKW, the bottom line really is driving defensively if you want an easy life. Organizing to book cars in, hire cars, body shop work, dropping cars off and collecting isn't worth the risk just because you technically can. If it were me i'd have just gone straight and found a place to turn around.

Even though you are right, if you have the accident, due to lack of defensive/attentive driving (like gammawolf ), your premium (but not no claims) will be hiked the following year - no ?

No idea if his premiums went up or down as it's not been renewed yet, all i know was both insurance companies agreed it was 100% the other party. So in the case of OP i'd say insurance would be on his side as well if anything happened
 
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