Why buying an 8800 now is pointless

NeptuneUK · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:51

In response to OP:

"Yes"

It mostly applies to those of us with TFT monitors who game at 1280x1024, there's no need for anything like a 8800, At 1280x1024 a x1950Pro would be a better buy than an XT.
I am actually planning on purchasing an 8800GTS or GTX during the summer of 2007, the prices will become more competitive and the card will actually have a use!

trojan698 · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:54

Aww, I missed easy's posts, were they good?

Robert · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:54

badgermonkey said:
Lol, worth an ask maybe?

Not sure if I have any games with 16AF, but I know I have both AA and AF full on all my games (only at 1280x1024 I'll give you that, but I still have easily large enough framerates

Why do you need twice the speed, if the cheaper cards run it fast enough? If I can run a game at 80-100 fps, why do I need to make it run faster?

Some games don't. BF2142 chugged in some places on my X1800XT and 3ghz conroe. Now it's silky smooth, money wasted...? NO!

easyrider · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:59

badgermonkey said:
Or in my opinion anyway.

Point 1: "It's the best card out there!!"

Of course it is, but there are many other cards that can play every game in existence and cost much less.

Not at high reslolutions.

A x1900 would crumble playing the latest games at high res.

Point 2: "Aha! But THEY won't be able to play the DX10 compatible games will they?"

Completely right of course. But what with there being no DX10 games OUT yet, then what's the point in buying it for this reason? Wait until the DX10 games start coming out, THEN buy it for cheaper than it is now!

No one buys the G80 for DX 10 compatibilty.They buy it for performance.
Thats it.

Point 3: "But it's price might not come down! It IS the only DX10 card on the market."

Sure it is. But we're still waiting for ATi's DX10 card. And there's no telling how much better than the 8800 that may or may not be. Nor doo you know how much it might cost in comparison. Plus it'll likely force the 880 to drop it's price.

The 8800 series has already dropped in price.Do research before you post.

Point 4: "I have to be the best of the best in the graphics department though!"

Some people do and NEED the extra perfromance.Thats it.

Well you need a girlfriend. I can run every game I have, which is most of the graphic intensive games out, on exactly the same amount of detail as someone with an 8800. And I only have a X1900XT. So what does spending over twice as much achieve? Future proofing? Well yes, but if you already have a computer and merely want to upgrade the graphics, you may as well hold off.

You know it makes sense!!

Now this is trolling,

This makes no sense at all.In fact its showing the rest of OCuk just how little you know about the GFX sector.

You run games at relative low res.

Others don't,others have the money and play at super res so they can never have enough GFX power.

Tell jokester that he needs a GF then as he is running SLI 8800 GTX.

I dare you!

A constructive post as to why he is wrong :

Jokester · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:02

easyrider said:
Tell jokester that he needs a GF then as he is running SLI 8800 GTX.

As long as I can have two I'll be happy

.

Jokester

Tute · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:05

I don't think Jokester "does" girlfriends...

Check out the handbag!!! Stylish...

Pottsey · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:07

“That's different... you're talking about a badly coded game that should only need a 6800 to run smoothly, not a game that pushes the envelope through technology.“
On max settings it looks stunning not like a game for a 6800. Its one of the best looking games out. The lights in motion on max settings bring the screens to life. Screenshots dont do it justice. Though I do agree its badly coded.

But still I like NWN 2 a lot and the 8800 lets me play it. That alone makes it worth while for me. If the 8800 lets me play a game on max settings that I cannot play without it then its not pointless.

Jokester · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:08

Tute said:
Check out the handbag!!! Stylish...

They heard about my reputation for blowing stuff up so they gave me a gas detector.

Jokester

gurusan · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:08

the 8800 also has SUPERB image quality in comparison with the x1900-x1950 series

Tute · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:16

I'm going to keep this nice and simple.

If you're running at a high resolution (personally i'd say around 20inch or higher) then the 8800 is a good buy.

If you're running at a "lower" resolution then an X1900 should play all the games as fast as you need.

If however, you have a small screen but a high budget, it would probably be worth going to the 8800, after all, if you're looking for a new PSU you get as big a wattage as you can, in order to future proof.
It's the same for graphics cards. If you can afford it, then save yourself an upgrade later on.

I got an X1950XTX about 2 months ago, I however didn't pay retail for it so I certainly don't regret the buy, however if I was buying new it would have been a GTS at the very least.

IQ is a bit of a moot point, as it's debatable how much people actually notice it. I don't know about others but I play my games to shoot stuff, not admire pictures. Sure, good IQ is nice to have, but it's not really a selling point.

That's my view.

[Edit] Also, I don't advise posting pics of a don on the forum. The threats i'm getting over msn.... :eek:

Jokester · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:21

The 8800 IQ is definitely noticeable better than previous Nvidia offerings in my opinion, certainly on a par with X1900. Whether it's better or not is hard to say in real world gaming.

Jokester

easyrider · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:28

Jokester said:
The 8800 IQ is definitely noticeable better than previous Nvidia offerings in my opinion, certainly on a par with X1900. Whether it's better or not is hard to say in real world gaming.

Jokester

I disagree,

8800 is far superior IMHO

I have a few mates with x1900xtx's and they agree also.

In fact they say NV have made IQ like no other gfx card before.

And coming from them thats something!

FoxEye · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:30

badgermonkey said:
....
Well you need a girlfriend....

Wait, I'm confused. Are you trying to save him some money, or bankrupt him?

Tute · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:31

easyrider said:
I disagree,

8800 is far superior IMHO

I have a few mates with x1900xtx's and they agree also.

In fact they say NV have made IQ like no other gfx card before.

And coming from them thats something!

I'm not saying you're wrong at all, the IQ may well be superior, however to some people they may not notice it as much, which is why I consider it a moot point.

The GTX sells itself on other points than it's IQ though.

Richdog · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:38

Pottsey said:
“That's different... you're talking about a badly coded game that should only need a 6800 to run smoothly, not a game that pushes the envelope through technology.“
On max settings it looks stunning not like a game for a 6800. Its one of the best looking games out. The lights in motion on max settings bring the screens to life. Screenshots dont do it justice.

Now I KNOW that you have no idea what you're talking about... because it's nothing of the sort.

And learn to use quotes... there's a quotes button for a reason.

trojan698 · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:41

easyrider said:
Now this is trolling,

Hardly, try jesting.

markyb · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:48

This thread only comes into question when on what card people are upgrading from.

At this moment in time I can't see there any point in me upgrading from a 7900GTO @ >GTX speeds.

However If I was running a low / mid range card then the 8800 would be worth buying.

If your not buying a 8800 due to your reasons on waiting for ATi's competition you would never buy a new graphics card.

hardc0re_tid · 31 Dec 2006 at 18:58

badgermonkey said:
Point 2: "Aha! But THEY won't be able to play the DX10 compatible games will they?"

Completely right of course. But what with there being no DX10 games OUT yet, then what's the point in buying it for this reason? Wait until the DX10 games start coming out, THEN buy it for cheaper than it is now!

by the time the new games come out there will be a new card costing the same as what an 8800 originally did when it first came out and all the 8800 owners will HAVE to have one, resulting being back to stage 1

easyrider · 31 Dec 2006 at 19:01

hardc0re_tid said:
by the time the new games come out there will be a new card costing the same as what an 8800 originally did when it first came out and all the 8800 owners will HAVE to have one, resulting being back to stage 1

We top end hardware users usually dont have top end cards for that long.

We get rid and upgrade for little loss.

Lolcb · 31 Dec 2006 at 19:02

Easy go post on the G80 club thread. :cool: