Why Can't I Sleep?

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Hi,

over the past few nights i havent been able to sleep until about 5/6 in the morning, waking up just in time for neighbours at 1 40.

Any tips on how to get my sleeping pattern back to normal? I have tried waking myself up earlier and trying to stay awake all day but when it comes to 'bedtime' I cant nod off.

Ta, mac
 
do some exercise? get up real early do some exercise of some sort tire ya self out during the day then try sleeping. Also a warm drink b4 bed like hot choc
 
I have the same problems (been going on for ages tho)

I thought that staying up all night, and going to bed about 11-12 (after being u for ~38/9hrs) would work, but i was tired all day, then when it came to a reasonable time to go to bed, i was wide awake :/

ended up going to bed about 5am :(

any reccomendations welcome, but i dont drink any hot drinks :(
 
Christ, I was thinking about making a thread like this just now. I got out of bed for the third time this night. Having gone to bed at around 1. I just don't ever feel tired.
 
perplex said:
Christ, I was thinking about making a thread like this just now. I got out of bed for the third time this night. Having gone to bed at around 1. I just don't ever feel tired.

i go to bed about 5am, dont get to sleep for 1hr minimum (upto 3hrs :/)

its getting annoying now, really cant get to sleep anyearlier than that :confused:
 
I have the same problem at the moment. Only I know why I can't sleep right now. It's cos I had a nap at 8pm. For 3 hours.
 
The older you get the less sleep you need ;)

I know how you feel , I blame it on the change in the season ...The pull of the moon and all that , I know its sounds crazy but a lot of people have the same feeling this time of year ...Hence all the nitol advert's on the telly

Night all . YAWWWWN !

:o ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ
 
make sure you get up at the same time every day no matter how much sleep u have... only go to bed when ** tired.... i find relaxing in the evening is helpful.. so read a book or something, no adrenaline producing activities so lay off the fps before bed... and a nice hot drink... maybe a bath

thats everything ive ever read about waking up refreshed/falling asleep ..... if it ever works ill tell u :)
 
Force yourself up at a sensible time every day, and the same time every day, as has been suggested (a good time would be to correspond with it getting light outside, eg 8am)

Sleep with your curtains open, so you are gradually and naturally awakened by the sunlight (sunlight helps the part of the brain involved in your sleep-wake cycle to reset itself - and also can cause secretion of serotonin)

Try to get out of the house every day, and get some fresh air and sunlight, especially if you are spending long stretches in rooms lit by flourescent lamps. It is also possible to get lights which mimic sunlight and have been shown to improve mood and relaxation, which may help.

Related to the above, try and do some exercise (preferably aerobic - like sports, jogging, swimming etc). Without wanting to imply anything, this should improve your fitness, which should also prevent altered sleep, as overweight people often get collapse of parts of their throat which can impede breathing and thus sleep.

Cut out caffeine and other stimulants as much as possible, especially in the evening. Tap water is supposed to be the best thing to drink later as it is less taxing for your digestive system. Similarly, don't eat large meals prior to going to sleep, and preferably have your dinner a few hours before, and don't snack heavily afterwards.

Make sure the environment in which you sleep, your odd sleep pattern could well be due to inadequate sleep. Make sure that your room is not too hot (or to a lesser extent, too cold), that you are resting your head at a suitable angle (ie don't use too many pillows), clean your sheets and replace bedding perhaps to eliminate any possible allergens which could impede your breathing.

Make sure you go to the toilet before sleep, another reason many people may have sleep disturbances is the need to urinate during sleep (and often you will not remember if you go to the toilet at night as you are in a semi-conscious state!) :p

Keep a notepad and pen by your bed. A lot of people have disturbed sleep patterns due to stress or anxiety, and they are kept awake by their brain running over the day's interactions or the coming week, etc. Personally I have found this to be the most useful technique, just writing the thoughts down as they come up, so your mind can relax knowing that you will remember and deal with the problems the next day. Related to this, cutting out as much stress from your life will help (i realise that this is a bit of a ridiculous statement as nobody in their right mind goes out looking for stress, and what stress they encounter is necessary for them to live their lives).

Hmm, that's all i can think of atm, will post more if i remember them :o
 
Get up when it's time to get up. Don't be a wuss about this - when the alarm goes off, get up.

Stop drinking coffee and alcohol - especially the booze. One of the symptoms of alcohol withdrawal (even if it's after a bingey weekend) is difficulty in getting to sleep.

Get some exercise - It doesn't have to be particularly strenuous - Even a long walk in the fresh air will do you some good.

Read a book when you are in bed - don't watch TV, play games, play on your PC.
 
Or just stay awake until your wake/sleep cycle coincides with the times you want it at and then keep it there by practice.
 
The best way I've found is to force myself to get up early. I've not been doing so well lately, but I'm getting better. Do some exercise too and that should make you more tired.
 
Strange, in a similarish situation to a couple people here. I find i cant get to sleep for a few hours when i go to bed and then im waking up every 30mins-1hour. Was struggling to stay focused at work yesterday so following the boss' instructions and seeking medical advice from the local doctor today. The most annoying thing is i dont feel tired per se, but i feel completely drained of energy :/ sleeping with lack of rest kinda sucks.
 
some good points about sleeping with the curtains open and forcing yourself up at a reasonable hour. If i get up a 7am then my body will automatically be ready for bed between 10 and 11.

I remember when I was at uni, I wasn't ready for bed before 1am and always get up at like 10-11am :/
 
The thing that got me back on track is the missus leaving me. Apart from that, stay awake ALL NIGHT then go to work, then go out with your mates in the evening and make yourself go home at 23.00. This way there's no risk of falling asleep through the day. Then you'll wake up at about 9am no problem.
 
Getting into a pattern is definitely a good thing. My sleep has been disrupted for years now but when I stuck to religiously getting up at 8 am everyday over the summer vacation last year, I found it much easier to fall asleep.

I also find going to the gym for a swim late in the evening helpful, as it tires you out and you just want to sleep.

Plus the usual cut down on the caffeine, don't go straight from the computer to trying to sleep etc.

I also found learning some relaxation techniques quite good, can't remember where I found them, but if i do i'll post them. I was a bit sceptical about them as it sounded a bit 'hippy' like, but I definitely found it good for helping me to switch my mind off a night, as I'm a real sufferer of anxiety and worry and can let my mind race for hours at night.
 
perplex said:
Christ, I was thinking about making a thread like this just now. I got out of bed for the third time this night. Having gone to bed at around 1. I just don't ever feel tired.

Too much carboyhydrate in your diet? Too much caffeine? Try some Horlicks and eat Turkey (its been proven to make you drowsy, just like Christmas Day!)
 
I went to a sleep theopist a while back.. I was getting only a few hour sleep a night. This is what was suggested and worked..:

1. Keep a sleep diary.. note all the things that's going through your mind, things to do , the days events etc.. Sounds stupid but it purges your mind so that subconciously, you go to bed on a clear mind. Call it closure.. Do this 15 before going to bed.

2. Avoid caffine as previously said,

3. Accept it.. Sometimes your body just doesn't need sleep so you must accept it. Don't let it get to you or wind you up or the problem will get worse.. This was the bit i had difficulty with. If you can't sleep, then you don't need it. If you can't get to sleep say after 1/2 hour. Get up, read a book or do something relaxing.. Avoid Computer games and TV..

4. Give you self time to unwind before bed. Watching TV or playing games isn't unwinding. Have a bath with some gentle music..

5. Soft light in the bedroom.. We have some red soft lights which is very relaxing.. looks like the red light area but who cares :p


Hope this helps

PS.. you could always do what my crew do when at sea and take to the rum!! :D
 
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