Why do Londoners think they are separate from the rest of England?

RomanNose · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:01

"Dis place is da Shizzle brova. I luv it ere and so doz mi hommies in da Swindon Massive. Brap!
Biggup crupa repping east side

Magic roundabout ting

Dj_Jestar · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:04

Raymond Lin said:
For a tiny example.....

You can tell if someone has lived in London by the mere observation of their behaviour on the escalator and which side they stand.

And how often they tut at those who do not comply

explicit4u · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:05

Ahleckz said:
You clearly don't know many travelled people.

What makes you think that?

PMKeates · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:07

Dj_Jestar said:
Crystal Palace, Penge, Some areas of Camden, Ealing, Chiswick, etc. etc.

OK, so we are imagining things completely differently. I was thinking nice areas of Z1-2, not 3 onwards.

The very cheapest 3 bed house in Camden on http://www.rightmove.co.uk is in excess of £300k. You need in excess of £500k for somewhere that looks reasonably nice, and you aren't going to be buying one of those if you're not on good money.

Ahleckz · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:08

explicit4u said:
What makes you think that?

I know plenty of people who have visited London and other places and would say that London isn't their favourite or the best place. I find it unbelievable that everyone you know that has been to London found it to be the best place they've ever been.

Xelene · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:08

Raymond Lin said:
For a tiny example.....

You can tell if someone has lived in London by the mere observation of their behaviour on the escalator and which side they stand.

There are separate rules for different types of escalator tho!

PMKeates · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:09

Ahleckz said:
I know plenty of people who have visited London and other places and would say that London isn't their favourite or the best place. I find it unbelievable that everyone you know that has been to London found it to be the best place they've ever been.

and on the contrary, the most well travelled person I know (most major cities across the world) considers London the greatest city on Earth. Though, he did always say it was for the young or the wealthy.

Xelene · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:09

PMKeates said:
OK, so we are imagining things completely differently. I was thinking nice areas of Z1-2, not 3 onwards.

The very cheapest 3 bed house in Camden on http://www.rightmove.co.uk is in excess of £300k. You need in excess of £500k for somewhere that looks reasonably nice, and you aren't going to be buying one of those if you're not on good money.

You'd need to pay me £300K to live in Camden, would need it to cover the Insurance premiums.

Ahleckz · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:11

PMKeates said:
and on the contrary, the most well travelled person I know (most major cities across the world) considers London the greatest city on Earth. Though, he did always say it was for the young or the wealthy.

I'm not disagreeing that it isn't a great place. I know people who are well travelled and consider it to be the best. However, for everyone that you know to think that (as is the case with explicit) is bizarre. London is a good city, granted, but it's not that good (nowhere is)!

Squark · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:12

Because Londoners are stuck up their own backsides?

Hatter The Mad · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:15

Raymond Lin said:
but on national average, it's hard to be out all the time. You would have a better standard of living in Manchester on the same salary.

There is a big difference between £24,000 and £100,000.

Btw, when I put 6 figures...I want to live in Richmond.

You can do it without six figures.

Why would someone move to London without the prospects of a liveable salary, anyway? As a single person, you'll need to be earning around £30-40k to live well and have fun.

Elixir · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:15

Am I the only one who doesn't give two ****s about the Olympics being in the UK? Take all the boring sports that don't usually get coverage because, you guessed it - they're boring - and dominate TV with them for a month. Fantastic.

PMKeates · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:17

Hatter The Mad said:
As a single person, you'll need to be earning around £30-40k to live well and have fun.

Again, this totally depends on your expectations. I earn pretty well for my age (more than the figures you've quoted), live at home with my parents for free, yet do not consider myself particularly wealthy and seek a greater disposable income.

Dj_Jestar · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:17

PMKeates said:
OK, so we are imagining things completely differently. I was thinking nice areas of Z1-2, not 3 onwards.

The very cheapest 3 bed house in Camden on http://www.rightmove.co.uk is in excess of £300k. You need in excess of £500k for somewhere that looks reasonably nice, and you aren't going to be buying one of those if you're not on good money.

Z1-2? Where there are very few houses, let alone residential areas? London is all the way up to Z6 chap.

Single person on £40k could manage £300k house.

But why would a single person need/want a £300k 3-bed house?

Squark · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:18

Elixir said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give two ****s about the Olympics being in the UK? Take all the boring sports that don't usually get coverage because, you guessed it - they're boring - and dominate TV with them for a month. Fantastic.

Should television companies only show what you find interesting? No.
Other people find different sports interesting, not just the same old football crud week on week.

Kenai · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:20

PMKeates and DJ_Jestar have just perfectly illustrated why your expectations of what constitutes a nice area or a decent quality of life are a huge factor in whether living in London is attainable for sensible money

Dj_Jestar · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:20

Kenai said:
PMKeates and DJ_Jestar have just perfectly illustrated why your expectations of what constitutes a nice area or a decent quality of life are a huge factor in whether living in London is attainable for sensible money

*high five*

Moothead2 · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:21

Elixir said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give two ****s about the Olympics being in the UK? Take all the boring sports that don't usually get coverage because, you guessed it - they're boring - and dominate TV with them for a month. Fantastic.

You're not, no. Winter Olymipics > Summer Olympics.

Xelene · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:21

Hatter The Mad said:
You can do it without six figures.

We (couple) live in Hampstead for a LOT less than that, nice (small) flat, eat well, go out to restaurants, cinema and save a big chunk of cash every month. It's green, safe, great services and twenty minutes into town.

Raymond Lin · 5 Aug 2011 at 18:23

sldsmkd said:
We (couple) live in Hampstead for a LOT less than that, nice (small) flat, eat well, go out to restaurants, cinema and save a big chunk of cash every month. It's green, safe, great services and twenty minutes into town.

Find me a 3 bed house in Richmond