Why do PC users dislike Apple?

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So if you seen a car with less fetures for more money you would go for the more exspensive option? Because you dont "need" those extra things, you logic is terrible :P

Tell me then why poverty spec BMWs outsell a comparably sized and better equipped mass market cars?

You honestly saying if you had 20k burning a hole in your pocket to buy a car you'd go for the Kia with climate control and bigger engine over the more expensive BMW/Audi without?
 
Your joking right? It is not illegal to run OSX on a PC :P apple just dont like it

Read the license agreement.

2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time,and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code) in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original.
 
And all of the best applications are available on OS X

I'm not one for ranting and will happily just let people get on with it and believe/do what ever, but lines like this are just pathetic - how can Logic and FinalCut (the main application difference) be classed as "all of the best applications"? :rolleyes:

It's this general illinformed smugness that you get with (some, i've met a number of level headed mac users) white-product-loving folk that gets my goat. I've even had the pleasure of having a heated debate with an Apple store worker, when i went with someone to purchase a Macbook Pro, on how he believed a 5400rpm drive was capable of recording 20+ audio tracks (min 24bit/48k) and streaming back equally the same or more tracks in real-time all because he made "beatz" on garageband or something. He finally got the message when we told him that between us there are 10-15 years experience working/studying in this field and we'll be having the 7400rpm drive. No doubt this BS happens in places like PCWorld, but when you're spending £2k+ the last thing you want to be told is what and how to do your job.

I believe there is no real difference between Mac or PC (and this is from my daily use of both systems), apart from the obvious - if you need to Logic or FC you get a mac, Max 3Ds you use PC etc, everything else is pretty much available on either. And with W7 i think there is no performance difference what so ever. I've played with Protools HD/LE and Cubase on a PC and a similarly spec'd Mac Pro and neither of them showed a performance edge over the other, they both seems to happily deal with what ever i chucked at it.
 
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Now you see, THAT is a reply to the topic, not what so called "fanboys" say like "Macs just work" YOU have a honest and decent reason to prefer one over the other depending on what YOU are doing.

It's seems that a lot of people just like to blab about there macs just working, and being good looking, thats why so much hate for them

I don't think anyone on this forum bought an Apple product because they thought all Macs "just work". Most Apple users by their products because they understand exactly what they're getting and it's exactly what they want.

PC users dislike Apple, because all they can see is a big price tag, Mac vs PC adverts and the lack of games. And because they believe that everything about Apple is just cosmetics. When there's more to design than looks, and generally people who buy Macs understand this.
 
I'm not one for ranting and will happily just let people get on with it and believe/do what ever, but lines like this are just pathetic - how can Logic and FinalCut (the main application difference) be classed as "all of the best applications"? :rolleyes:

It's this general illinformed smugness that you get with (some, i've met a number of level headed mac users) white-product-loving folk that gets my goat. I've even had the pleasure of having a heated debate with an Apple store worker, when i went with someone to purchase a Macbook Pro, on how he believed a 5400rpm drive was capable of recording 20+ audio tracks (min 24bit/48k) and streaming back equally the same or more tracks in real-time all because he made "beatz" on garageband or something. He finally got the message when we told him that between us there are 10-15 years experience working/studying in this field and we'll be having the 7400rpm drive. No doubt this BS happens in places like PCWorld, but when you're spending £2k+ the last thing you want to be told is what and how to do your job.

I believe there is no real difference between Mac or PC (and this is from my daily use of both systems), apart from the obvious - if you need to Logic or FC you get a mac, Max 3Ds you use PC etc, everything else is pretty much available on either. And with W7 i think there is no performance difference what so ever. I've played with Protools HD/LE and Cubase on a PC and a similarly spec'd Mac Pro and neither of them showed a performance edge over the other, they both seems to happily deal with what ever i chucked at it.

There's more to Macs than FinalCut. :) And for the record I don't use either of the applications you mentioned.
 
That does not make it illegal lol............

And the only reason that is there is to scare people because they are not aloud to sell there OS as a standalone

It's a very grey area actually, they've never taken it to court that I know off (and until they do nobody knows whether it's illegal or not). The idea is if you use it on non apple branded hardware then you breach the license agreement, which means you have no license and are hence essentially running a pirated copy.

Nobody knows if that'd stand up in court. And the 'apple labelled' phrase is very important, what does that actually mean?? Is sticking an apple sticker on your case good enough?

But today, nobody can say with certainty.
 
I bought a copy of Snow Leopard standalone for a whole £25. It is being used in accordance with the license on my Mac Mini.

Stop trolling complete rubbish.

Which they made it so withought macking a hackintosh you can only run it on a PC, so it's not a standalone when it carnt go on any old hardware.

Microsoft have the patent for that
 
It's a very grey area actually, they've never taken it to court that I know off (and until they do nobody knows whether it's illegal or not). The idea is if you use it on non apple branded hardware then you breach the license agreement, which means you have no license and are hence essentially running a pirated copy.

Nobody knows if that'd stand up in court. And the 'apple labelled' phrase is very important, what does that actually mean?? Is sticking an apple sticker on your case good enough?

But today, nobody can say with certainty.

To be honest i hope they DO take it to court. Atleast then people would know.

But if it turned out that it was not illegal would that mean that MS could sue apple for selling an OS? Or would there user agreement save them? Or is that maybe why they have not taken somone to court?

I aint got a clue, thats why im asking
 
This is the big thing with these arguments. Smart people know each OS has its pros and cons. There is no OS in the world ever that suits everyone.

Hardware-wise, it isn't really that big of a deal. Think about it, you don't buy a Mac to play games so you don't need massive horsepower. Yes, there is stuff like media creation and manipulation which requires grunt - and that is when you buy a more powerful apple workstation designed for the task. If the software you need runs in Windows, by all means run Windows. As said, many people prefer OSX-only software, or just prefer OSX versions of software. I know a bunch of guys who use Adobe suites on OSX and they think it runs better than in Windows. Could be entirely subjective, but if they work better on a Mac then why shouldn't they?

The world is full of things that you pay a premium for. I was stood outside a watch shop in Manchester today drooling over a 10 grand Breitling. People pay this kind of money, and more, for watches every day. Yet if you get right down to it, it does exactly the same thing as a £100 watch from Argos. The difference is the quality, care, attention and support.

An Aston Martin DB9 and a Vauxhall Astra do the same basic thing. One is massively more expensive than the other. Again, it comes down to quality, attention to detail and so on.

At the end of the day if you want a Mac then go buy a Mac. You should not have to justify to anyone what you do with your own money. Smart, knowledgeable people will understand you have chosen a Mac as your preference and will not question it [unless you made a schoolboy error and bought one to play games on! :p]. The person who does question it will be the Windows fanboy and nothing you will say will ever change their mind. [The exact same can be said for Apple fanboys too].

Even with stuff that is very similar attracts fanatic fanboyism. Take ATI vs nVidia. Some people are insane and insists their choice is the best, when in reality outside of benchmarks there is no real-world difference at all. If ATI vs nVidia can't be resolved, two completely different OS/computers have no chance.
 
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This is the big thing with these arguments. Smart people know each OS has its pros and cons. There is no OS in the world ever that suits everyone.

Hardware-wise, it isn't really that big of a deal. Think about it, you don't buy a Mac to play games so you don't need massive horsepower. Yes, there is stuff like media creation and manipulation which requires grunt - and that is when you buy a more powerful apple workstation designed for the task. If the software you need runs in Windows, by all means run Windows. As said, many people prefer OSX-only software, or just prefer OSX versions of software. I know a bunch of guys who use Adobe suites on OSX and they think it runs better than in Windows. Could be entirely subjective, but if they work better on a Mac then why shouldn't they?

The world is full of things that you pay a premium for. I was stood outside a watch shop in Manchester today drooling over a 10 grand Breitling. People pay this kind of money, and more, for watches every day. Yet if you get right down to it, it does exactly the same thing as a £100 watch from Argos. The difference is the quality, care, attention and support.

An Aston Martin DB9 and a Vauxhall Astra do the same basic thing. One is massively more expensive than the other. Again, it comes down to quality, attention to detail and so on.

At the end of the day if you want a Mac then go buy a Mac. You should not have to justify to anyone what you do with your own money. Smart, knowledgeable people will understand you have chosen a Mac as your preference and will not question it [unless you made a schoolboy error and bought one to play games on! :p]. The person who does question it will be the Windows fanboy and nothing you will say will ever change their mind.

Even with stuff that is very similar attracts fanatic fanboyism. Take ATI vs nVidia. Some people are insane and insists their choice is the best, when in reality outside of benchmarks there is no real-world difference at all. If ATI vs nVidia can't be resolved, two completely different OS/computers have no chance.

+1 more sensible post in the thread.
 
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