Soldato
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- Surrey, by the river
Lots. Lots and lots.....get out of my waaaaaaayyyyy!![]()
Somehow, if you think the VED argument is valid, I doubt it.
Lots. Lots and lots.....get out of my waaaaaaayyyyy!![]()
It's still taxed, no?
It's ok, you'd be relieving congestion by not being in the bloody way on a bike!![]()
The alternate route is via the seafront which would take about 15 more mins and is along a 30mph road with lovely views, it makes no sense to me.
[DOD]Asprilla;22278283 said:Somehow, if you think the VED argument is valid, I doubt it.
[DOD]Asprilla;22278291 said:Erm, if I'm quicker then clearly not.
Traffic moves, on average, at about 12mph in London and I average 18-20mph on my commute.
Don't worry though, lots of people confuse the speed their vehicle is capable of with the speed of their journey.
My argument is somewhat tongue in cheek.
Too subtle?![]()
London problems, no-one outside London cares....
I average 55-60 on the way to my work. Can't do that on a bike no matter how hard I pedal!
[DOD]Asprilla;22278327 said:If you average that then I guess you don't get held up by many cyclists.
Not on the motorway.
We don't need taxing of cyclists. We need them trained and insured. They need to be forced to know it's illegal to cycle on motorway before they even try.
And we need HC to ban cycling and 50cc L plated mopeds from all dual carriageway roads with speed limit above 30mph and single carriageway roads with speed limit of 40mph. I know a lot of you will jump in with "why not 40" but just imagine someone cycling on Westway/A40 flyover.
Yesterday around 7pm I witnessed 1 mile traffic from Tower Hill almost all the way to Limehouse Tunnel, turned out to be some a-hole on Boris Bike cycling literally in the middle of outside lane of eastbound dual carriageway shouting "I am allowed to be here!" and spitting obscenities at honking traffic. Found a technicality for his one man war against "the machine" and made it his mission to exploit it. And you know that where there is one, there is more. That type of eco warrior crowd is set to grow.
[DOD]Asprilla;22278351 said:So you have nothing to complain about then.
Jolly good.
So either 99% of country lanes are no go areas for cyclists (so no one can realistically cycle in the countryside without breaking the law) or the NSL for single carriage lanes is reduced to 40? I like the latter personally.![]()
So either 99% of country lanes are no go areas for cyclists (so no one can realistically cycle in the countryside without breaking the law) ....?
Yup. No cycle lane = no cycling on those roads. It's time to separate 50/60/70mph traffic from potentially any Joe Shmo trying to zig zag up the hill on an argos bike with small torch strapped to their four letters. Both parties would enjoy dedicated lanes too.
In which case most roads weren't made with motorists in mind. I'm happy for cars to keep to the roads designed for em (basically motorways and dual carriageways) and the cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders can take the rest.