Why does iplayer need DRM?

Glaucus said:
What an odd question. Drm on Iplayer is fine and needed. It's for timeshifting like a VCR, it's not to download and keep their entire catalogue.
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I don't think DRM is fine anywhere really. I mean all it does is get in the way of legitimate customers (see Activision)

If Apple can make music DRM free I don't see why others cannot. It is ineffective at stopping piracy anyway.
 
LordSplodge said:
I don't think DRM is fine anywhere really. I mean all it does is get in the way of legitimate customers (see Activision)

If Apple can make music DRM free I don't see why others cannot. It is ineffective at stopping piracy anyway.
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Given that the government does not give appropriate property protection (ie criminal classifications of the law) to intellectual property, how can you object to companies trying to protect their rights?
 
Dolph said:
Given that the government does not give appropriate property protection (ie criminal classifications of the law) to intellectual property, how can you object to companies trying to protect their rights?
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I object to DRM and not to the protection of IP rights. DRM is often intrusive; look how they broke the Red Book CD audio standard trying to stop copying or how some single player games require an active internet connection to work. DRM gets abused as well like how it forces legitimate customers to watch unskipable adverts and trailers on DVD/Blu-Rays they have purchased.

Seeing as DRM is ineffective at stopping copying I don't see the point.
 
LordSplodge said:
I object to DRM and not to the protection of IP rights. DRM is often intrusive; look how they broke the Red Book CD audio standard trying to stop copying or how some single player games require an active internet connection to work. DRM gets abused as well like how it forces legitimate customers to watch unskipable adverts and trailers on DVD/Blu-Rays they have purchased.

Seeing as DRM is ineffective at stopping copying I don't see the point.
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I agree with you in many ways, and would happily see DRM banned along with the movement of copyright abuse from civil to criminal law as a balance.

I would also point out that DRM doesn't have to stop copying, only make it more problematic for a group of people. Much as car alarms don't stop you stealing a car, they just make it harder, that is the theory behind DRM. Not everyone has the tech savvy of those who inhabit this forum.
 
Dolph said:
I agree with you in many ways, and would happily see DRM banned along with the movement of copyright abuse from civil to criminal law as a balance.

I would also point out that DRM doesn't have to stop copying, only make it more problematic for a group of people. Much as car alarms don't stop you stealing a car, they just make it harder, that is the theory behind DRM. Not everyone has the tech savvy of those who inhabit this forum.
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You don't need to be tech savvy though. You can get easy access to DRM free material from a torrent site or download software that does it for you in a few easy clicks.
 
Glaucus said:
Of cours it's bad, why would you buy. They don't even stream shows years after they only stay on Iplayer a few weeks. Pvrs don't really have that function. They have relatively small hard drives and you have no real option but to delete.
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1) They could have a 30 day limit on when you can download
2) most peoples. Pvr is the same size as their hdd. I.e about 500g. Only self builders have massive storage sizes.
 
500g is not big at all, for tv that's not many hours.

What good is a 30day download limit without drm. They allready have a ~14day download time limit.

Absolutely nothing wrong with drn on Iplayer. It's essential. A huge chunk of BBC money comes from DVD sales, then as allready said they have licenses with other people. It's the drn on zune/iTunes that annoys me, I've paid to own it.
 
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