meglamaniac said:I love a well reasoned argument.

As opposed to all those "but its a better OS" arguments M$ fanbois use...
meglamaniac said:I love a well reasoned argument.
Shoseki said:
As opposed to all those "but its a better OS" arguments M$ fanbois use...
Shoseki said:
As opposed to all those "but its a better OS" arguments M$ fanbois use...
OzyOly said:Becuase people like Vista you think they are fanboys?![]()
Shoseki said:No, I wouldn't say that. But, just like McDonalds and other brands, you don't have to be actively in love with something to just auto-accept "the next version".
If I were paying a large amount of money for a new operating system, I'd be damn sure I was getting something amazing to justify the expense, and not because the current operating (XP) will cease to be supported in about five years time.
meglamaniac said:And before I get accused of being an "M$ fanboi", I have machines running OSX and linux as well. They behave in exactly the same way. This isn't a case of Microsoft wasting your ram, it's a case of them catching up with what everyone else has been doing for years.
wannabedamned said:Other than seeing that theres a lot of memory consumed on the stats page, What problems is it causing? it's still faster than XP in many ways, and the RAM gets dumped during gaming.
When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?meglamaniac said:And before I get accused of being an "M$ fanboi", I have machines running OSX and linux as well. They behave in exactly the same way. This isn't a case of Microsoft wasting your ram, it's a case of them catching up with what everyone else has been doing for years.
dirtydog said:When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?
Obviously then OSX doesn't have as good a memory manager as Vista...dirtydog said:When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?
I just have to worry about the bashing my ears are getting, and about my HDD wearing itself out prematurely.NathanE said:Obviously then OSX doesn't have as good a memory manager as Vista...
Vista has I/O prioritisation so you need not worry about the search indexing going on in the background as it doesn't affect I/O performance of applications that need it at all.
dirtydog said:When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?
dirtydog said:I just have to worry about the bashing my ears are getting, and about my HDD wearing itself out prematurely.
I don't know how good OSX's memory manager is. What I do know is that once it boots to the desktop (quicker than Vista as well, on this machine) the HDD shuts up straight away. Yet apps still load in a flash.
What about when you first boot up?Tute said:No hard drive activity here, even when browsing the net.
dirtydog said:What about when you first boot up?
How is it so different from telling Windows XP to use a large system cache (via the registry) and setting it to memory usage for "best performance of system cache" which is also the default Windows 2003 setting IIRC.meglamaniac said:That's because OSX displays the amount of RAM in use by programs, and that value only. In effect it only shows the little green bar seen in the screenshots on the first page. Believe me, being based on Unix, OSX does use any spare RAM for cache. Unix is all about efficiency, and it's daft to have RAM sat there doing nothing.