Why does Vista use so much memory

Xp x64 usually used about 30-35% after a few hours of normal windows use (browsing multiple windows, listening to music, utorrent, chatting, watching videos)

Vista 32-bit ultimate uses about 40% ....small difference so far and it feels just as snappy as xp.

I have 2gb of ddr running at 247mhz btw
 
Shoseki said:
:D

As opposed to all those "but its a better OS" arguments M$ fanbois use...

As everyone else has already pointed out, Vista is designed to make maximum use of the available memory which is why it uses all of it. Anything that is being used for cache (i.e. the majority of it in the above examples) can be instantly overwritten at any time by a program that needs it. The rest of the time it's there to boost performance.

And before I get accused of being an "M$ fanboi", I have machines running OSX and linux as well. They behave in exactly the same way. This isn't a case of Microsoft wasting your ram, it's a case of them catching up with what everyone else has been doing for years.

That, my friend, is a reasoned argument.


I've been very careful not to say Vista is outright better than any other OS, because it isn't. Like all systems, it is better than alternatives for some things and worse than alternatives for others.
 
OzyOly said:
Becuase people like Vista you think they are fanboys? :confused:

No, I wouldn't say that. But, just like McDonalds and other brands, you don't have to be actively in love with something to just auto-accept "the next version".

If I were paying a large amount of money for a new operating system, I'd be damn sure I was getting something amazing to justify the expense, and not because the current operating (XP) will cease to be supported in about five years time.
 
Shoseki said:
No, I wouldn't say that. But, just like McDonalds and other brands, you don't have to be actively in love with something to just auto-accept "the next version".

If I were paying a large amount of money for a new operating system, I'd be damn sure I was getting something amazing to justify the expense, and not because the current operating (XP) will cease to be supported in about five years time.

Fair enough. My reasons for getting vista are simply Halo 2 Vista and because every computer site I go on is advertising this and it is slowly breaking me down.
 
Missing memory
Maybe your video card is using it :eek:

My 6800 GT has 768mb of ram !!
Seems the Nvidia driver turned it into a turbo cache. :(
 
meglamaniac said:
And before I get accused of being an "M$ fanboi", I have machines running OSX and linux as well. They behave in exactly the same way. This isn't a case of Microsoft wasting your ram, it's a case of them catching up with what everyone else has been doing for years.

the truth
 
wannabedamned said:
Other than seeing that theres a lot of memory consumed on the stats page, What problems is it causing? it's still faster than XP in many ways, and the RAM gets dumped during gaming.

Because it interferes with everyone's "look how small my memory footprint is"/ "look how few processes my machine is using" e-peen.
 
meglamaniac said:
And before I get accused of being an "M$ fanboi", I have machines running OSX and linux as well. They behave in exactly the same way. This isn't a case of Microsoft wasting your ram, it's a case of them catching up with what everyone else has been doing for years.
When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?
 
dirtydog said:
When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?

Excessive HDD activity? Where? Got none on my machine. :confused:
 
dirtydog said:
When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?
Obviously then OSX doesn't have as good a memory manager as Vista...

Vista has I/O prioritisation so you need not worry about the search indexing going on in the background as it doesn't affect I/O performance of applications that need it at all.
 
NathanE said:
Obviously then OSX doesn't have as good a memory manager as Vista...

Vista has I/O prioritisation so you need not worry about the search indexing going on in the background as it doesn't affect I/O performance of applications that need it at all.
I just have to worry about the bashing my ears are getting, and about my HDD wearing itself out prematurely.

I don't know how good OSX's memory manager is. What I do know is that once it boots to the desktop (quicker than Vista as well, on this machine) the HDD shuts up straight away. Yet apps still load in a flash.
 
dirtydog said:
When I've used OSX it hasn't behaved like Vista. It doesn't display 4 meg of RAM free out of a gig, when there are no programs running. Nor does it have Vista's excessive HDD activity. So what do you mean exactly?

That's because OSX displays the amount of RAM in use by programs, and that value only. In effect it only shows the little green bar seen in the screenshots on the first page. Believe me, being based on Unix, OSX does use any spare RAM for cache. Unix is all about efficiency, and it's daft to have RAM sat there doing nothing.

As to harddrive activity, I can't really say.
Possibly your machine is reindexing or running other background tasks such as a Windows Defender scan?
 
No idea. Even on the login screen, I see the HDD going nuts. Is it just loading loads of software into RAM in case I need it? I can't see the point of that at all.
 
dirtydog said:
I just have to worry about the bashing my ears are getting, and about my HDD wearing itself out prematurely.

I don't know how good OSX's memory manager is. What I do know is that once it boots to the desktop (quicker than Vista as well, on this machine) the HDD shuts up straight away. Yet apps still load in a flash.

No hard drive activity here, even when browsing the net. It does it for a bit after install to index stuff, then when it's done, it appears to stop.
 
dirtydog said:
What about when you first boot up?

Just while it loads drivers/startup stuff/CCC.

Then it settles down and there's nothing.

(Sorry about the edit) :)
 
meglamaniac said:
That's because OSX displays the amount of RAM in use by programs, and that value only. In effect it only shows the little green bar seen in the screenshots on the first page. Believe me, being based on Unix, OSX does use any spare RAM for cache. Unix is all about efficiency, and it's daft to have RAM sat there doing nothing.
How is it so different from telling Windows XP to use a large system cache (via the registry) and setting it to memory usage for "best performance of system cache" which is also the default Windows 2003 setting IIRC.
 
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