Why is origin such an awful program.

m4rk84 said:
I have no reason to have Origin installed. The only game I own on Origin is BF3 and that was a huge mistake. While I did have Origin installed however I was left with an application that would pop up on every startup of my system with ads, that alone was enough for me to want to uninstall the program.
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They both do that on default settings you can turn off the auto start on both

m4rk84 said:
Like I said I want Steam to have competition. However EA aren't the company to provide competition. EA thinks very little about the consumer and just thinks about it's profits.
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probably but you never know there so much money in the industry now just look at how the ethos of bioware and blizzard has changed in the last few years. (mainly aimed at Valve not EA, but its steams to lose atm.)

m4rk84 said:
The most obviously good competitor would be existing online retailers. I'm clueless as to why Amazon haven't tried to create a similar gaming platform, it seems like they would be able to provide legitimate consumer focused competition to Steam which would be healthy for everyone, and they have the power to truly compete. Or perhaps Google itself could provide a PC game store within it's Play market, that seems like a good idea too.
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Just sounds like the people wanting every mmo to be a wow killer. Ot won't happen instantly for any platform it will take years of development after launch to match steam by any platform.

Origin is fine but Steam is the better platform atm there is no real doubt about it. The main platform i have issues with is GFWL always seem to annoy or get in the way. I try to avoid it now.
 
m4rk84 said:
The most obviously good competitor would be existing online retailers. I'm clueless as to why Amazon haven't tried to create a similar gaming platform, it seems like they would be able to provide legitimate consumer focused competition to Steam which would be healthy for everyone, and they have the power to truly compete. Or perhaps Google itself could provide a PC game store within it's Play market, that seems like a good idea too.
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Amzon kind of have this in the USA. You can buy and download digital versions of products (some of which you can activate on Steam though). They were going to roll it out in the UK but I'm not sure why it didn't appear.

Windows 8 is going to fill a bit of the gap soon with it's App Store (but please don't turn this into another Windows 8 thread please! :) )
 
ZombieFan said:
Amzon kind of have this in the USA. You can buy and download digital versions of products (some of which you can activate on Steam though). They were going to roll it out in the UK but I'm not sure why it didn't appear.

Windows 8 is going to fill a bit of the gap soon with it's App Store (but please don't turn this into another Windows 8 thread please! :) )
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Interesting, is the Amazon version a permanent thing where you can delete and re download as much as you like?

I was hinting more at a client based system for Amazon though, something closer to what Steam is rather then just a download link.

I could imagine a Google Play client similar to the Google music client that would keep your games in the cloud for download when or if you need them. In future as technology improves they could even make some of the games available to stream directly through the Chrome browser.
 
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I launch and play BF3 via Battlelog, Origin loads and goes away, I never open it and I never interact with it directly. It sits in the system tray.

It's a trash program that is only installed because BF3 'requires' it.
 
Origin drove me crazy when I first tried to install Battlefield 3, it kept getting stuck and telling me to install the whole thing again and again.

Turns out it didn't like IE installing one of the plugins on Windows 8 for some reason, as soon as I got it working with Firefox it behaved itself.
 
Not as bad as GFWL!

I wanted to play some Bioshock2 tonight; I had an hour or so. What I ended up with was 15 minutes play which I then lost when I spent 45 minutes trying to login to GFWL so I could save my game. I used every single permutation of hotmail and outlook email addresses and passwords and it won't let me in. Origin is ugly as sin, but at least it seems to work. Obviously, Steam makes both of them hang their heads in shame...

Stuff Bioshock 2, plenty of other games in my Steam list that don't require GFWL to play. It probably wasn't that good anyway ;-)
 
Thank god I don't play BF3 and only played it a couple of times. Everyone seems to hate this program, although I must say I didn't encounter any problems with installing/playing the game but the joining games via web browser is so stupid and illogical
 
m4rk84 said:
Interesting, is the Amazon version a permanent thing where you can delete and re download as much as you like?

I was hinting more at a client based system for Amazon though, something closer to what Steam is rather then just a download link.
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Yea, you download a small installer program for each game or application you buy. The installer then lets you view your keys or download and install the game.

It's perfect for Amazon really. At the end of the day they are just a shop who wants to get your purchase to you as easily as possible.
 
barmyllama said:
It's because EA designed Origin to make money. Valve designed Steam around giving customers a better experience with Valve products. Because of that attitude Steam has grown to be everything that it is now. EA will never have the same attitude and thus will never hope to match Steam.
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I don't think that Steam is what it is because Valve always thinks happy thoughts. Steam and Origin are literally almost exactly the same thing. The thing people don't like about Origin is that it isn't Steam. They complain about Origin but they'll lap up any of the **** Valve feeds them without complaining about it.

PapaLazaru said:
Never had a problem with it. Steam crashes more often for me.
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This is actually true. I've never had problems with Origin preventing my computer from shutting down, crashing, or saying that my games are "currently unavailable".

I really like the client for Green Man Gaming actually. It works really well and doesn't get in the way too much. The optional GoG one is great too, that actually downloads and installs your games, you only need to run it whenever you buy a new game, and it downloads all of the extras too :D
 
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i'm was annoyed at first with this whole "launch from browser" business... but now i'm more annoyed that if i want to play bf3 single player, if you launch from origin...it opens battle log... then you press play there and it opens it up again in origin... pff going round in circles.

i'm more annoyed that to stop the god damn annoying windows messages about "windows performance and visual mode" going to basic and stuff, I have to set origin and bf3 to run with "disabled desktop composition"... and ok that's fine.... but when i close bf3... i then have to close origin for it to properly go back to the aero theme. it's a small thing but it does grind my gears.
 
I don't get too many issues with Origin now. I did when I first had BF3 but my troubles seem to have been fixed. In regards to Battlelog for BF3 I really like what it has to offer like all the filters to find servers, the assignment and unlock stuff but I just wish they had put the web page within the game exe the starting and stopping of the game annoys me!
 
This thread is a nice little proof that a company's bad rep alone won't sink a product if it does its job and doesn't go out of its way to aggravate people.

Something to bear in mind when people claim GFWL hate is just for the sake of it ;)
 
arknor said:
yea steam is so awesome! especially when you get a corrupt download that refuses to install with a disk i/o error....
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300 games bought, never had this problem and neither did none of my friends. But every single application can throw crazy bugs on some uber specific configurations, that is just the nature of PCs.
 
People used to moan about steam also I think. Origin needs much improvement, its freezing windows currently so they must have some dodgy code in there to just take control of the OS like that
 
Paul_cz said:
300 games bought, never had this problem and neither did none of my friends. But every single application can throw crazy bugs on some uber specific configurations, that is just the nature of PCs.
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ive seen a few people posting about it recently.

it happened to me with sleeping dogs and you dont find out until the game in unlocked :@
steam has no crc error checking in 2012? i had to download the whole game again
 
Dauthi said:
They both do that on default settings you can turn off the auto start on both



probably but you never know there so much money in the industry now just look at how the ethos of bioware and blizzard has changed in the last few years. (mainly aimed at Valve not EA, but its steams to lose atm.)



Just sounds like the people wanting every mmo to be a wow killer. Ot won't happen instantly for any platform it will take years of development after launch to match steam by any platform.

Origin is fine but Steam is the better platform atm there is no real doubt about it. The main platform i have issues with is GFWL always seem to annoy or get in the way. I try to avoid it now.
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Where can you turn off the advertising in Origin?

Origin wrecks my head. Eats up resources some times while it should be doing nothing.

Origin in game only works half the time.

Cloud storage takes about 10 mins to update some times.

Advertising on start up really ****ing annoys me, as if they're not getting enough of my money for BF3 and Premium, Fifa etc.

When it launches it launches into the store which doesn't work for me most of the time, all I get is two scroll bars going back and forth rapidly with nothing on the background if I wait for 5 mins and keep clicking.

There all I can think of atm but I'm sure more will pop up.
 
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