Why is the government entitled to a slice of our wages?

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:10

So inspired by a post in the housing market thread, why are they are entitled to a slice of our wages (slice increases mores you earn)?

Where did it all start?

Is there a better way?

Should they be told get lost?

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:13

My council tax pays for the police.

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:24

All those services seem to be turning to **** though, so what’s going on?

Budget cuts etc

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:28

Interesting article which articulates my thoughts.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/297810/Just-where-does-all-your-tax-go

So if the government cannot afford to provide these services, then is the realistic answer to not provide these services?

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:51

Let’s take HS2 as an example, what’s the funding % from the tax payer?

What about the Houses of Parliament fixer upper? How about they approach their wealthy compardres to pay for it?

Are we not supposed to be all in it together?

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 18:55

Guess I went off topic from my original question.

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 19:21

So are we all being scammed?

Do the Government not earn enough to provide the services they’ve signed up to provide?

antijoke · 14 Oct 2017 at 20:12

Russinating said:
Income tax is totally fine. It's tax on tax that's the killer, even VAT for example which effects everyone but also things like stamp duty, inheritance tax, CGT, etc.

It's kind of crazy to think that after having 20-40% taken you need to cough up another 20% if you actually want to use and spend any of that.

Yeah, people say if you want a civilised population but this system obviously doesn’t work and doesn’t feel very civilised to me and in 2017 there must be a better way of doing things.

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 01:05

So national insurance and income tax pay for the NHS?

I always thought it was just NI that did.

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 11:11

Mr^B said:
The thresholds for inheritance tax are quite generous. A married couple passing on their estate to their children/grandchildren, that's a limit of £850,000 without having to pay any tax at all.

And with house prices as they are.....someone who is not really wealthy could fall into having to pay tax purely because of the value of their house.

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 12:23

Kenai said:
Your local council almost certainly receives funding from central government, I'd be surprised if they operate on council tax alone.

Weren’t they cut off in the localistation thing? Hence why large cuts to budgets locally?

[TW]Fox said:
Who provides the environment and infrastructure your company operates in in order for you to be paid that wage?

Infrastructure? Do you mean the ability to collect taxes?

I work for a small (3 employees) company, I’m sure they could survive without Government interventions.

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:04

Vonhelmet said:
Without a road network? Power? Telephony? Educated staff? Yeah, good luck.

Aren't the power companies private?

Hades said:
That does make complete sense.

But recently I've realised I am paying for loads of things I don't need. So I have started cutting things out to reduce my costs. This is actually improving my life. So given this example then surely the government should also be arriving for reduced costs and efficiencies.

EXACTLY!

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:21

It's hilarious you talk about power companies being in financial difficulty.

antijoke · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:27

Vonhelmet said:
It's hilarious you think they could have started from scratch and got to where they are now without having been born out of a state owned system.

I didn't say they started from scratch, I just said aren't power companies private.

antijoke · 16 Oct 2017 at 20:13

Is it a case of it’s easier to just maintain the status quo than to implement change?