Why is the Mac the developers platform of choice?

JollyJamma said:
They are trying with RISK processors from ARM but Apple have such a head start with their Apple silicon and because they control both hardware and software, they can better fit the OS around the hardware and vice versa.
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Well also the fact that Windows is iterating on decade old code and features, while trying to keep everything backwards compatible. They also seem more focused on having the user be the product than providing a decent OS. Apple do have the benefit of a more narrow hardware support profile.

I also dislike OSX but Linux lacks broader software support (you can get 90% of the way there) and Windows has a slightly better user experience but is inferior as a laptop OS.
 
JollyJamma said:
Well, I know what I’ll be nominating for dumbest statement of the year for 2025.


They are trying with RISK processors from ARM but Apple have such a head start with their Apple silicon and because they control both hardware and software, they can better fit the OS around the hardware and vice versa.

X86 and X64 based CPUs are less efficient than RISK processors by their very design.

I love Apple silicon and I’m going to buy a Mac Book Pro M5 as a treat if I can make my current job stick but I don’t like OSX that much and find I have to turn off the animations to make it somewhat less annoying.

That being said, I don’t much like the way Windows 11 is going and the fact that I have to debloat it, block in OS adverts, block telemetry, block AI and change registry settings after every major update equally as annoying.

The fact that Chris Titus has a tool to automate the debloat of Windows says a lot.

The M5 CPU is stunningly fast for many tasks and the MacBook Pro M5 has 17 hours of battery life which for work is amazing and a great combination of features.

No, it can’t outperform a laptop with a dedicated high power Nvidia GPU but I don’t want or need one of those.
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My biggest issue with Windows is the push to the cloud. But then Apple did this years ago. Though resetting a password on Apple takes a ridiculous amount of time.

Can't outperform something with a dedicated GPU is a significant difference. As is battery life. Or noise. Or software compatibility. Windows is going to be reluctant to lose that backward compatibility by switching to ARM because it's one of it's primary advantages. Its been here before with RISC Alpha. Windows on ARM still kinda of a beta for me.

Apple can switch platform because it has a captive market. But it's creates a lot of pain in its wake. Especially with MacPro users. That said with Win11 Microsoft is cutting off a lot of older hardware.
 
Mesai said:
Well also the fact that Windows is iterating on decade old code and features, while trying to keep everything backwards compatible. They also seem more focused on having the user be the product than providing a decent OS. Apple do have the benefit of a more narrow hardware support profile.

I also dislike OSX but Linux lacks broader software support (you can get 90% of the way there) and Windows has a slightly better user experience but is inferior as a laptop OS.
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Windows 8 with the tiles and touch screens was an attempt to facilitate that mobile tablet like market. Lots of Windows Laptops or hybrid tablets have touch screens. Never needed a touch screen on a laptop personally. Hence I never really like the tiles. It was superb on Windows Phone though.

We've a load of media slices and nucs running TVs and AV gear in our meeting/media rooms at work. All running Windows and MS Teams. Giant touch white boards etc. All touch screen.
 
OspreyO said:
Windows 8 with the tiles and touch screens was an attempt to facilitate that mobile tablet like market. Lots of Windows Laptops or hybrid tablets have touch screens. Never needed a touch screen on a laptop personally. Hence I never really like the tiles. It was superb on Windows Phone though.

We've a load of media slices and nucs running TVs and AV gear in our meeting/media rooms at work. All running Windows and MS Teams. Giant touch white boards etc. All touch screen.
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My comment was less about the UI, although Windows touch experience doesn't seem great; that being said, it's not like MacOS offers an equivalent so you'd need an iPad.

Windows has far better window management so it works well on a laptop from that perspective, but power state management is absolute garbage compared to MacOS. Sleep is more of a suggestion - always fun to hear the fans spinning while it's in your laptop bag because it decided to wake up. With a MacBook, I can close the lid, leave it for a week and barely lose any charge, open it and resume what I was doing.
 
Mesai said:
Well also the fact that Windows is iterating on decade old code and features, while trying to keep everything backwards compatible. They also seem more focused on having the user be the product than providing a decent OS. Apple do have the benefit of a more narrow hardware support profile.

I also dislike OSX but Linux lacks broader software support (you can get 90% of the way there) and Windows has a slightly better user experience but is inferior as a laptop OS.
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I love Linux but I will break it.

If I leave it alone and just do basic tasks like email, internet browsing and the odd game emulation, it’s great.

Asking it to do advanced stuff is a bit much.
 
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