Why isn't it recommended to get a diesel...

Jonnycoupe said:
You could have just said they were the same as a summary which you didn't actually state.

Ie. GPS says 70 and so does my 70.... Have you read how waffly your post was? Captain Birdseye drives a Civic !
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Life is really too short...... Bet you are fun in a pub discussion.
 
kevpuk said:
As a previously life-long confirmed petronista, I only last week succumbed to the oily stuff......even after years of childishly (:D) teasing my brother and father about their oil-burners.
Last few petrol cars have been an Omega 3.0 V6, Seat Toledo 20vT (180) and Saab 9-5 Aero......love the performance~y engines.
So, always thought diesel would not work for me......but just over 1 week ago I joined the club - spangly Jaguar XF-S 3.0D. Stunning performance from the twin-turbo V6, along with seemingly great economy. Most of the time, you wouldn't 'know' it was a diesel (lack of clattery malarkey) and it really is a joy to drive. For the stat-fans, 275BHP, 443lb/ft(600NM) and mpg well into the 40s from what I have seen so far.....albeit my current use is Poole - Brentford (pretty much all motorway for 90 miles, then about 7 miles faffing after the M3 finishes) and back each week. Perfect diesel journeys?
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To be fair the more recent 6cyl diesel engines from the likes of Audi/Jag etc are a different story. My dad just bought a Bi-TDI A7 and I agree it lacks the tractor noise and it's surprisingly quiet not to mention quick. For him the diesel makes sense because he does a lot of mileage and the car frankly is more suited to a diesel engine than something like a TT Cabriolet, same applies to your Jag XF-S. His previous car was a 330D cab and that was an epic fail, even he admits that.

That however is not the same as buying a 2.0 TDI Golf or a Cooper D without doing the maths and considering whether or not you really need a diesel. It's a bit like comparing Tesco Value Diesel engines with Waitrose Duchy Originals Diesel engines. They're in a completely different league.

The new Jag F type is marketed as pure driving pleasure and it's no coincidence you can only buy petrol engines as it's a droptop sports car.

Your XF-S is a classy, high-end luxury saloon and as such there is nothing wrong with a diesel engine.

My issue lies with the sort of people who would create the demand for an F Type Diesel and thus justify its existence.
 
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Tute said:
I never drove the FK3 but I did have a look around one a while back and I was wondering - how does having the spoiler half way up the back window not bother you? :p
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You get used to it, despite it being infuriating for the first thousand or so miles. The unintended benefit of it is that it stops you being dazzled by ******* who do not understand how to use their headlamps properly. The downside is it makes keeping an eye out for the rozzers a tad more difficult.

~250 mile run in my 2.2 FN3 today yielded approx 55MPG on the motorways. Mainly because they were too busy to do my usual 'sit at 95mph for a bit and suddenly I'm where I need to be' routine. Replacing the 2 year old fuel filter last week may have also played a part in that.
 
I have a 56 plate megane and it goes like a wippet and MPG is very good indeed. Maybe it has an older engine?
 
paradigm said:
I think it's safe to say that if you are doing the mileage to warrant the increased purchase and servicing costs, and you have a comprehensive warranty on said vehicle, there is nothing wrong with a diesel.

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You can make any car display that for a photo if the conditions are right and you hit reset at the right moment. I think its fairly safe to say that your car is not doing almost 80mpg across the entirity of any meaningful journey.
 
Lashout_UK said:
How many people have had problems with DPF filters on here, out of interest? I do wonder about the true scale of the issue. I asked around the office and could only find one person that had suffered a fault with a DPF in their car - but it was caused by a fuelling problem rather than numerous short trips.

Just curious :)
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My mum has a Citroen C4 with a DPF. It usually only get used for local journeys and will often go months without being used for a long motorway journey. They've had no DPF problems.

Only reason they have a diesel is it's a motability car and there was no extra cost.
 
[TW]Fox;24697588 said:
To many miles to spend in a plastic trolley :p
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What would you reccomend for 10? Not that I'm really looking at anything else as she wants a Civic but would be interesting to see what you propose.

Everything is relative and it will feel like a limo compared to the current car pool
 
What constitutes a "meaningful journey"? My cars overall average is now a gnats testicle under 60MPG, and yes, on most runs to/from Manchester 15-20mi, I'm getting above 70MPG.

Having just returned home in the last 30 minutes from a similar journey, it did an indicated 72.4MPG.
 
Yep, I did just south of Manchester, to North Devon, around North Devon for a week, then back home, averaging high 50s, this was calculated manually to confirm that the trip seems to be relatively accurate.

Like I've said before though, it's less efficient on the motorway than it is on A roads.
 
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