Why no full screen?

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Hello,

I had a quick play with a Mac in the Apple shop yesterday and found one annoying thing, there is no full screen button. A Google search shows that the green + symbol resizes the window to fit the content.

The only trouble is, sometimes it's not one-size-fits-all, especially with internet browsing. It would get pretty annoying having to manually resize the window because different websites are different sizes.

Macs seem to like the whole "floating window" idea. For example in Photoshop there is no background. I'd get so confused as to which window I had open and where my document is. Isn't it better to focus on the one window, or just have the ability to do that if you want to? Some programs suit full screen (internet browsers) whereas others suit the windowed setup (folder browsing, IM clients).

Let me know what you think. Seen as I'm considering buying a Mac I'd love to hear from old Windows based users who switched.

Thanks.

Edit: I should have really put this in the title too but I have the same beef with the close button. It doesn't close, it minimises.
 
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You can download an app called isolator which will put a black background on the screen so that you only see the open app that you are working on.

Also once you resize a window to full size for the first time and then hit the green button it will continue to remember the full size setting and so will work
 
You can download an app called isolator which will put a black background on the screen so that you only see the open app that you are working on.

Also once you resize a window to full size for the first time and then hit the green button it will continue to remember the full size setting and so will work

Thanks I'll add this to my bookmarks.
 
I have to say its one of those niggles for OS X

Theres no way to maximise in OS X.

There is also no way to set default column width in Finder.

Theres no built in mechanism to set mouse acceleration as well.

Open windows don't register on the dock like they do in windows so only way to swap around is expose all windows which is great if you can bind it to the
mouse but no if you have to press F9 everytime.

Although I haven't tested this personally, with dual screens the menu for any program always remains on the primary screen, but you can still move toolbars and windows around.

sid
 
so you basically want to make osx work like windows?

stick with windows in that case.

It's not as clear cut is that. There are things on both systems that are annoying but that's why there is choice.

Obviously there's more annoying things on Windows than there are on OS X otherwise I wouldn't be looking at switching. Sic has suggested a program that can help overcome one of these problems and that's all I was looking for.
 
it's very simple to fix this issue.
just create a new tab on your bookmarks tab, call it how you want (i call it FULL SCREEN) and link it to this address:

javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight);

job done! it works also in Camino...haven't tried in firefox (i hate it).
 
so you basically want to make osx work like windows?

stick with windows in that case.

I think I will :rolleyes:. I think gui is worse than windows imho.

I dont fancy buying progs to get basic things like moues acceleration right.

Or making javascripts to get full screen windows
 
It depends, the background is that OSX doesn't because if you have a massive display there's little point in applications such as web browsers attempting to open fullsize.
 
It depends, the background is that OSX doesn't because if you have a massive display there's little point in applications such as web browsers attempting to open fullsize.

Of course but preview seems to open PDFs at an arbitrary font size and things like word and excel also open with small font size so you end up increasing it anyways, It would look much larger with full screen
 
I think I will :rolleyes:. I think gui is worse than windows imho.

I dont fancy buying progs to get basic things like moues acceleration right.

Or making javascripts to get full screen windows

I'm not normally one to get into this sort of thing, and I know you didn't start it, but mouse acceleration isn't wrong in OSX, it's just different and I personally prefer it. I can't actually use Windows any more because the mouse is stupid - I bought a G9 so I could slow the mouse way down :/

I can understand the fullscreen web browsing windows thing, but if you just drag the window out to full screen and don't resize it again, that works fine.

Thing is, if Windows did everything you want, exactly the way you wanted it, why bother changing? Different operating systems are bound to be different, otherwise there'd be no point in them existing!
 
Drag the browser handles so that it becomes fullscreen.

Next time you open it, it'll be fullscreen. Can't see the problem :confused:
 
I'm not normally one to get into this sort of thing, and I know you didn't start it, but mouse acceleration isn't wrong in OSX, it's just different and I personally prefer it. I can't actually use Windows any more because the mouse is stupid - I bought a G9 so I could slow the mouse way down :/

I can understand the fullscreen web browsing windows thing, but if you just drag the window out to full screen and don't resize it again, that works fine.

Thing is, if Windows did everything you want, exactly the way you wanted it, why bother changing? Different operating systems are bound to be different, otherwise there'd be no point in them existing!

I'm only testing it tbh. Windows does everything I want better. I was just checking what the fuss was about. And the answer is - not very much

Apple programs work much better on OS X and vice versa for microsoft.
 
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