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Why Nvidia?

120hz and 3D vision keep me with nvidia this time round. ATI have only 'announced' 3D at the moment, I'm not gonna sit and wait for them to get off their arse, I need better performance in the above RIGHT NOW. Besides, I tend to get a new card every year or so, it's not like I'm signing my life away haha. Some people here get so worked up defending their brand, you'd think their life depended on it. :D

In a years time if ATI is better (for all the things I need) then I'll get it in a heartbeat, I went ATI when the geforce fx came out, but back to nvidia when the 6800 came out and was awesome..
 
rafster said:
Just like what you have just done :confused:
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Exactly, it was a demonstration of how pointless it is to hand-pick and whenever Raven posts such useless images he is best ignored until he is banned gain..

Except I took the one of the most renowned and trustworthy review sites and I didn't hand-pick benchmarks, I just got bored.


The point still stands, across all review sites over all benchmarks at all settings the 480 is the single fastest GPU at stock settings.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Oh look, see how the 480 tramples all over the 5870 in the minimum framerate :o department, plenty more on the web..



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run the same test at 2560 x 1600
 
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Ergo, 480 is 43% Faster minimum frame rate.

Anyone can pull random graphs out. You need to see the performance across a rnage of settings that are representative. CPU limited cases without AA on low res show the 480 to be 3% slower is meaningless
 
D.P. said:
I thought you were Perma Banned. Better be careful with your insulting posts and fanboy accusations.
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Your entire argument was most people don't care about overclocking or what the card is, just the performance. The 5970 is faster, by a HUGE amount more often than the 480gtx is faster than the 5870. As in 9/10 times the 5970 spanks the 480gtx easily, in the odd game xfire doesn't work well for a week or two for a new driver set(which is rare) it will still offer 90% of the performance the 480gtx does.

Single GPU is the thing that really means nothing, if you just want the fastest card ever, its the 5970 by a MASSIVE margin. 480gtx's in SLI only beat the 5970 by a small margin, and the 5970 is just downclocked 5870's, not even full speed ones.

Honestly theres very little reason to buy anything buy a 5850, if its 1 card, or 4 or anything in between the 5850 is a truly fantastic card thats incredibly powerful and offers 95% of the performance of a 5870, massive overclocks and 66% of the price, its a freaking steal.
 
D.P. said:
Ergo, 480 is 43% Faster minimum frame rate.

Anyone can pull random graphs out. You need to see the performance across a rnage of settings that are representative. CPU limited cases without AA on low res show the 480 to be 3% slower is meaningless
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And the gap would be bigger with crossfirex against sli. I dont much care for benchmarks. I have experienced this in most of the new games, its obvious now that when using more then one card its better to have more then 1 gb of video memory because I actually sometimes get better minimum fps with two of my 5870 disabled which is frustrating.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Your entire argument was most people don't care about overclocking or what the card is, just the performance. The 5970 is faster, by a HUGE amount more often than the 480gtx is faster than the 5870. As in 9/10 times the 5970 spanks the 480gtx easily, in the odd game xfire doesn't work well for a week or two for a new driver set(which is rare) it will still offer 90% of the performance the 480gtx does.

Single GPU is the thing that really means nothing, if you just want the fastest card ever, its the 5970 by a MASSIVE margin. 480gtx's in SLI only beat the 5970 by a small margin, and the 5970 is just downclocked 5870's, not even full speed ones.

Honestly theres very little reason to buy anything buy a 5850, if its 1 card, or 4 or anything in between the 5850 is a truly fantastic card thats incredibly powerful and offers 95% of the performance of a 5870, massive overclocks and 66% of the price, its a freaking steal.
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I mentioned that the 480 is the fastest single GPU. Clearly the 5970 is the fastest single card, but many people don't want SLI or CF setups. And if you bring multi-GPUs to the table then you can also compare with an SLI 480 setup which pulls an even bigger lead of a CF set up.


So my premise is, if you want a single GPU and do not want to over clock and you do not care about price or heat, then the 480 is the fastest card you can get except in some benchmarks under some settings. If you go dual GPU then 2 480s is the fastest you can get.

Maybe value for money is important to you, but arguing over release day prices on top end hardware is not really meaningful. 480 prices will come down, but there will always be a price premium for the fastest.


If you overclock then a 5850 makes a lot of sense.
 
D.P. said:
And if you bring multi-GPUs to the table then you can also compare with an SLI 480 setup which pulls an even bigger lead of a CF set up.
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A pair of 480's is going to cost almost £900, where a 5970 costs about £530. You could even toss in another 5870 and you still come out about £65 less than the 2 power hungry nvidia cards.
 
D.P. said:
*snip*

Ergo, 480 is 43% Faster minimum frame rate.

Anyone can pull random graphs out. You need to see the performance across a rnage of settings that are representative. CPU limited cases without AA on low res show the 480 to be 3% slower is meaningless
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That's a bit misleading, if you were getting those sorts of frame rates you wouldn't be playing at that resolution and you would look to drop it down to 1920x1200 beacause 10 FPS isn't really better then 7 FPS from a gameplay experience.
 
The 480 is the most powerful gpu available. It exceeds the 5870 by around 5 - 10%, in some cases a bit more so on average about 10%. It runs hotter, draws more power and costs more than a 5870. If you have the money and wish to pay more for the crown single gpu card then that is fair enough, each to their own I say.

Me personally, I would probably not go for it.
 
FlakMagnet said:
Can I just add that ATI's 3D implementation will require 3rd party hardware in addition to goggles and 120Hz TV/monitor.

/crawls back under rock.
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What 3rd party hardware could you possibly need besides a 120hz monitor and active shutter glasses?

If you're thinking of the Z-3D screens, they are just an alternative to the glasses/120hz combo.
 
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