How much stock do ocuk have left of the POINT OF VIEW GTX295?
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Why Nvidia?
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How much stock do ocuk have left of the POINT OF VIEW GTX295?
There's one left!
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D.P, how is value for money or price/performance a nonsense term?, that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard...
And why can't you compare a 5970 to a GTX 480, it doesn't matter than the 5970 is a dual GPU, and the 480 is a single, and it is completely fair the compare them as long as they're in the same price range.
And why can't you compare a 5970 to a GTX 480, it doesn't matter than the 5970 is a dual GPU, and the 480 is a single, and it is completely fair the compare them as long as they're in the same price range.
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Why argue about it? D.P is correct - if you dont want to spend the extra money then dont, simple as that - but overall its still the fastest single gpu on the market.
Even if its 1% faster, its faster. Not saying I would spend the price they want considering performance vs price though.
Even if its 1% faster, its faster. Not saying I would spend the price they want considering performance vs price though.
Then you are still wrong. 295s have been selling considerably for the last 7 months!
Of course Nvidia sales have dipped but they haven't been that bad!
260s, 275s and 285 have been selling quite well
Value for money never makes sense when talking about the highest performing cards. I mean, if you want value for moeny buy an Xbox or something. High end equipment is never value for moeny, and there is never a linear relationship between performance and price. 10% more performance will never cost 10% more money at the high end, so of course top end cards fail on value for moeny.
The 5870 fails on value for money, the 5850 would be better.
Furthermore, it is pointless talking about prices on a release product when etailers are having a field day. Wait 4-6 weeks when stocks and prices have settled and the price difference between the 5870 and the 480 will be greatly reduced. 480 are no worse than the 5870 prices soon after release really (yes, some people did get good prices before price gauging took over due to terrible yields).
Dual GPUs have known issues, especially with ATI setups. If you include a 5970 then you have to also allowed all combinations of dual GPUs like SLI 470/480, even a 295 .
I made a very simple statement:
If you ignore price, and heat, and noise, and don't want to overclock, and don't want to have dual GPUs then the 480 is THE fastest card you can buy with THE most features.
Of course, many people are concerned about price, heat, over clocking. Thats beside the point. The OP's question was "why Nvidia?"
The 480 being the fast single reference GPU is a reason for soem people. For others it maybe 3D-visoon, or physX, and for me linux drivers.
Yes, Nvidia had sample cards. But the GF100 architecture is massively different to the earlier designs and needs a new ground up driver.
The 5870 on the other hand is very similar to the 4870 and so there is less scope for driver upgrades, now ATI has had sample cards for coming up to 12 months probably.
Therefore, I can guarantee you that there is decent performance still to come from new Nvidia drivers. Another 10% on average over all games and settings is realistic.. Those games and settigns where the 480 falls behind might get a priority
If you could point me to any evidence that the architecture is as massively different as you say I would honestly be very interested to read about it.
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Have you been hit round the head or inhaled some toxic gases in the last few hours i am worried
I run CFD analysis a lot (Fire/Smoke dynamics etc) so have a 480GTX on order. So that's one reason 'why nVidia?'
Though I am in no way entering the argument about which is the better card, as it's a no brainer to all but the most hardened nVidia fan. Unless your require the special features I see no reasons to even consider Fermi.
Though I am in no way entering the argument about which is the better card, as it's a no brainer to all but the most hardened nVidia fan. Unless your require the special features I see no reasons to even consider Fermi.
The support for CUDA is still slow to take off even in CFD apps such as Fluent and STAR-CD (two of the market leaders arguably).
I think you'll find I'm right.
The whole available Nvidia range of cards are irrelevant or don't exist in real life.