Why PC Gaming is Surging

£500 for a decent PC? What are you smoking?

my pc likely didn't cost much more than that..

if you count
my case , hdd , ssd , monitor , keyboard , mouse & speakers
as free
they are all recycled from previous builds pretty much.

something you can not do with a console.


my last upgrade was
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £159.99 1 £159.99
Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard + FREE Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Pro SR1 CPU Cooler! £91.66 1 £91.66
XFX Pro 650W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.16 1 £54.16
Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX) £44.99 1 £44.99
Noctua NT-H1 Thermalpaste (2.5g) £6.66 1 £6.66
OcUK Premium One Piece 8GB USB2.0 Stainless Steel Pen Drive £5.79 1 £5.79
GRID 2 PC Game - FREE with Haswell CPU's, Systems & Bundles £0.00 1 £0.00
FREE SHIPPING (DPD Next Day): £0.00
VAT: £72.65
Order Total: £435.90
+ running a 7850 that was bought over a year ago because I see no point in upgrading my gpu yet


i don't think I ever spen't more than 500-600 upgrading my pc ever and I've been a pc gamer since around the year 1998
 
It's a collection of things. You are very clearly an "us and them" kind of PC gamer. I've seen your whinges about how consoles are ruining everything, and it's very clear you get a sense of superiority over "console gamers" being a PC gamer. Your issues with consoles stem from you being a PC gamer, not because you actually have an issue with the consoles.

Not at all, I dislike consoles because of the casual elements they are trying to bring into gaming, same as I hate iOS and tablet mini games. I like the PS3 and Xbox 360 (Xbox ONE is a joke though, and goes to show that people will take it up the ass out of fanboyism). Another reason I dislike consoles is that whilst they may not be ports, a lot of games come to PC as an afterthought, and we get laggy pieces of crap like Skyrim that take several months to fix. If Skyrim can run on consoles constantly running 30-40 FPS on the hardware they have, whilst looking 50, 60ish % as a good, why do PCs with 10x the power get 40% better graphics at the cost of worse performance? Skyrims just an example but there are plenty that are like that. Consoles hinder PC gamers in more ways than one, and that's why I dislike them. Although like I said, it's mainly the phone/tablet/Wii generation of 'gamers' I despise.

GPUs aren't used just for games. There are many industries that require a crap load of GPUs from AMD/nVidia that aren't related to games playing.

You can't look at individual GPU sales and equate them being PC gamers.

I know you can't, but they so vastly outsell consoles that even a small % of the sales figures can give consoles a run for their money. Also, each machine is gaming capable regardless of what it's used for, and that would effect the market share % the PC have, whether they are used or not. I know loads of people now who use their 360s for nothing but Netflix, or their PS3 for iPlayer etc. and never game on them. I know the figures are like 10% or less for console owners whereas obviously way more than 10% of PCs aren't gamed on, but the amount of GPUs out there that even if it's just half, they still beat them and if its even less than that PCs will still have a strong market share.

Not to mention that PCs offer a far, far better profit per individual sale that they'd have to sell 2-3 console games to bring the same in from 1 digital PC unit, so whatever the actual figures for gaming PCs vs consoles are, the consoles would have to double or triple the number to match the revenue which is a hard feat. You could have course argue that Steam sales etc. lessen this impact but consoles have the issue of pre owned games, which are hugely popular and equate to piracy as far as revenue goes.

TBH though, the entire subject is simply too hard to research facts on and limited mostly to speculation.
 
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I know quite a few people who game on consoles because they somehow think it is cheaper, but also have PCs/macs in their house. So when the next gen consoles arrive they will have ended up paying upwards of a grand for 2 separate devices, when as Raikiri demonstrates above, they could easily get one device a lot cheaper.

A friend of mine has a PS4 and two games(also on PC, Fifa and Watch Dogs) on pre-order for about £450(idk), but also a PC in his house. I don't know why he doesn't just get a decent graphics card, but he is adamant that 'PC gaming is too expensive' no matter what I say
 
There's also the cost of games to consider if you buy new, often they're £40-45 on console and £20-25 on PC. It all adds up.

I just made me nephew a little gaming computer, cost £300 (I did donate the RAM, keyboard and mouse so call it £350). Was playing Bioshock Infinity on it, high/very high settings, 1080p at a solid 60fps.

Saying that I'll probably pick up a PS4 because of certain exclusive games.
 
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You get a better variety of games on PC and games you'd never get on a console. But I suspect most PC games being included in all these metrics are not the ones you get from Steam but from Facebook.

Precisely.

The same old wish projections (yawn yawn) from the same old (rich) gamer nerds who are sitting playing lonewolf BF3 on thier 3000 worth of gaming PC whilst all their mates are playing online CoD together on thier 200 quid consoles.

The big blockbuster titles are largely console centric. Made 99% with the consoles in mind, with the PC versions getting a few layers of extra eye candy (if we are lucky) and smoother frame rates.

When these reports speak of 'PC gaming booming', they are talking about light casual games that yer granny might even be playing.
 
You get hobbyist games on PC though. Even I've made a few games for a laugh. I made a procedural universe last year but then realised it was that big there was no way I'd be able to fill it with fun!

You'd never get the likes of Dwarf Fortress on a console.
 
Not read all the thread so dunno if this has been discussed. I think PC gaming could be growing due to the fact steam is basically making the PC gaming experience much more like the console experience. You now have profiles that you can add badges to and up your steam level to add showcases for friends to see. You have achievements on most games as well. Also got Steams Big picture mode which takes it a step further.

I think when/if steam release their Steam box it could further help to boost PC gaming. Making it much more accessible for a lot of people who are scared off by the daunting task of building a Gaming PC.

Games are getting much easier to install and play. I have not had any real trouble in the last 5 years of having this PC. Also Nvidia drivers are soon going to auto update to keep it up to date I believe. Gone are the days of having to spend 20 minutes cleaning a driver install and rebooting 3 or 4 times lol.

As for costs, well I built this current PC in August 08, so it's now 5 years old and still able to play most new games. Obviously having to turn some settings down now, but thats the beauty of the PC. Still looks better than my PS3 gfx, even with some settings turned down. Paid about £700 for it 5 years ago and factoring in the fact its also used as a PC for lots of other things other than gaming I think PC gaming can be very good value for money. £140 a year for a PC that is used pretty much daily seems great to me.
 
A friend of mine has a PS4 and two games(also on PC, Fifa and Watch Dogs) on pre-order for about £450(idk), but also a PC in his house. I don't know why he doesn't just get a decent graphics card, but he is adamant that 'PC gaming is too expensive' no matter what I say

Sounds like a retard to me. Don't give up hope though, keep nagging. :D
 
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This thread makes me want to build a gaming pc again, last one I built was 2007. My hp probook is getting a bit old now and although plays older games its a business laptop.

May start looking at a new laptop for gaming. I have the gta collection on steam to play art some point.
 
I know quite a few people who game on consoles because they somehow think it is cheaper, but also have PCs/macs in their house. So when the next gen consoles arrive they will have ended up paying upwards of a grand for 2 separate devices, when as Raikiri demonstrates above, they could easily get one device a lot cheaper.

A friend of mine has a PS4 and two games(also on PC, Fifa and Watch Dogs) on pre-order for about £450(idk), but also a PC in his house. I don't know why he doesn't just get a decent graphics card, but he is adamant that 'PC gaming is too expensive' no matter what I say

It is often not quite that simple however, as many non-gaming PCs cannot simply be upgraded by slapping in a new graphics card, you have to fight your way past underpowered PSUs (perhaps with insufficient connectors for a high end GPU), weird case layouts, and possibly weak CPUs. There's no guarantee that adding a £350 gfx card to an old PC would make it better than a PS4 for gaming.

For enthusiasts like the majority of people on this forum, it's a non-issue, because we are much more likely to have a solid base to start from. But some of the cheap shop bought PCs out there used by Joe Public could be a real eye-opener in terms of their potential application for serious gaming.
 
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tbh if new you need to spend 500 quid you could build cheaper but in long run you end up spending more because you spent less.

500 is the buy in point new obviously if second hand a lot cheaper.

people still dont get how powerful the new consoles are. they aint priced how they are for nothing they are powerful.
 
I actually just made the decision to go back to PC for the next gen. I mainly play on my PS3 now but don't see the point in being an early adopter for the next gen of consoles (and maybe not at all depending on what platform gets all the games I want)
I ordered myself £400 of upgrades, nothing too fancy but enough to keep me going for a while. My current gpu is a 57xx (not 100% sure exactly which model. It still manages on today's games anyway) so I got a 7850, new processer, mobo and a 1080 led monitor (currently on 1680x1050 lcd) to give me a good headstart.

Really looking forward to getting back to pc gaming :)
 
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