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Why the 670 doesnt appeal to me

The OP makes no sense.
You can overclock the card yourself too, just like the 79** cards. The only difference is that if you do not overclock it will do some for you. Overclocking manually still gets you better/higher results so what is the difference?

On another note, bang for buck? The 670 can out perform a 680 when you overclock it. If you ask me (which I appreciate, you aren't) the 670 is the second best bang for buck card right now (the first being the 7850).
 
no_1_dave said:
The OP makes no sense.
You can overclock the card yourself too, just like the 79** cards. The only difference is that if you do not overclock it will do some for you. Overclocking manually still gets you better/higher results so what is the difference?

On another note, bang for buck? The 670 can out perform a 680 when you overclock it. If you ask me (which I appreciate, you aren't) the 670 is the second best bang for buck card right now (the first being the 7850).
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I know you can overclock the 670 etc, but most of it is done for you already. Doing something completely yourself is more satisfying than having someone show you what to do (apart from sex :D)
Also there is nowhere near the headroom available on 670 as the current AMD cards or previous gen AMD/Nvidia cards. You can get a 50% core overclock on a 7950 with luck and a bit of time tweaking, which to me is more fun trying to get that than a 10% extra clock on a 670.

As for bang for buck, I agree at stock the 670 is one of the best out there, probably better than the 7850. But when you factor in typical and max overclocks (which to me is more important as I dont run stock) the bang for buck ratios change considerably.
 
Wrexad said:
Thats what i mean.. Its pulling 350w DC you fool not AC ^^ This is what i mean people simply don't understand..
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You need to think before you type. A psu delivering 350w will be pulling more than that from the wall. People like you are the ones that need to understand.
 
Mal X said:
yea who gives two ***** about power draw
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In days gone by(Not that long ago) the AMD crew used to use power usage and heat as there weapon of choice, it now appears to have moved on to overclocking and proclaiming the card as the enthusiasts choice. It does keep me amused.
 
So the OP is disappointed at the 670 because it doesn't do or offer what he wants; an overclock that only the few knowledgeable souls can, dare or care to manage. Sorry but that sounds a little snobbish and superior to me.

I would imagine that probably 99% of people who buy video cards buy them to do one and one thing only - display video to play video games. The remaining percentage tweak and run benchies and brag about what they have achieved, and that's fine. In fact this probably pushes the industry along, companies striving for faster cards to be the top dog. But don't deny or denigrate the majority of the buying mass the extra power because they get for free what we used to work hard for. Think of it as an added challenge. :D
 
Mysterae_ said:
So the OP is disappointed at the 670 because it doesn't do or offer what he wants; an overclock that only the few knowledgeable souls can, dare or care to manage. Sorry but that sounds a little snobbish and superior to me.

I would imagine that probably 99% of people who buy video cards buy them to do one and one thing only - display video to play video games. The remaining percentage tweak and run benchies and brag about what they have achieved, and that's fine. In fact this probably pushes the industry along, companies striving for faster cards to be the top dog. But don't deny or denigrate the majority of the buying mass the extra power because they get for free what we used to work hard for. Think of it as an added challenge. :D
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Yes I suppose thats what it is, just dissapointed that nvidia have restricted the voltage and already overclocked the card for you, which is something I enjoy tinkering with.

I suppose its like driving a car with traction control on. Its probably faster round a track with traction control on but a lot more fun to try it without the computer helping you out :D
 
Mysterae_ said:
So the OP is disappointed at the 670 because it doesn't do or offer what he wants; an overclock that only the few knowledgeable souls can, dare or care to manage. Sorry but that sounds a little snobbish and superior to me.

I would imagine that probably 99% of people who buy video cards buy them to do one and one thing only - display video to play video games. The remaining percentage tweak and run benchies and brag about what they have achieved, and that's fine. In fact this probably pushes the industry along, companies striving for faster cards to be the top dog. But don't deny or denigrate the majority of the buying mass the extra power because they get for free what we used to work hard for. Think of it as an added challenge. :D
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I agree with this.

Surely a new GFX card should be about its power and efficiency and what it can do for your games, rather than how your overclocking is done.

Each to their own I suppose, but with any new card most of the time should be spent playing games right? And lets say you did have more OC options or whatever as you may wish, exactly how long would you spend tinkering, a day, two maybe to find the max, then what?

I do understand that its good fun to be able to extract the max from something and the processes involved can be rewarding but I think the bottom line should be about the end result: A very powerful GFX card that is also very efficient, cool and quiet.
 
Kribby2006 said:
but I think the bottom line should be about the end result: A very powerful GFX card that is also very efficient, cool and quiet.
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I've overclocked my 7970 from 925/1575 to 1150/1650 at stock volts for my 24/7 clock speeds, it runs BF3 smooth as butter on Ultra and doesn't get noisy or go over 70ºc.

This is Overclockers btw, not leaveitstockandmakedo.com ;)
 
dave_beast said:
This is Overclockers btw, not leaveitstockandmakedo.com ;)
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Indeed, but do you overclock everything you buy from them? 4.5ghz mouse mat anyone? How about a 2.5ghz dvd drive or 500hz pc case? It's only a name, a hangover from the early days when the company was trying to compete with simillar named companies and the pc self-build scene was taking off.
 
dave_beast said:
I've overclocked my 7970 from 925/1575 to 1150/1650 at stock volts for my 24/7 clock speeds, it runs BF3 smooth as butter on Ultra and doesn't get noisy or go over 70ºc.

This is Overclockers btw, not leaveitstockandmakedo.com ;)
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YEA' plus if you read all the other forums you'll see how far it's safe to go anyway, there is no point buying an OC card if you aint going to OC it. :cool:

i will OC mine staight away to the figures it sais or to be safe; slightly below, and watch and see what happens.
 
Mysterae_ said:
Indeed, but do you overclock everything you buy from them? 4.5ghz mouse mat anyone? How about a 2.5ghz dvd drive or 500hz pc case? It's only a name, a hangover from the early days when the company was trying to compete with simillar named companies and the pc self-build scene was taking off.
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^ Lol :D

Thing is, I dont remember asking/doubting what Dave's card could do, whether it ran hot cold or anything else for that matter.

Also just to add I like to OC stuff myself too ;)
 
being a noob i will prolly be happy with fiddling a few dials for some time, still, would be nice to know that if i wanted to i could push it as much as i like. not sure why you can't get the best of both...
 
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