Wife's car stolen from our driveway overnight

sovietspybob said:
Yeah nowadays i don't think faraday pouches are really worthwhile, lots of easier ways to steal cars for the most part.

Have a read of this if you want to scare yourself with just one example with how easy modern cars are to steal.. :(

https://kentindell.github.io/2023/04/03/can-injection/
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Hence the reason I won’t buy a car with keyless entry/start, one of the main reasons I went with the R-roc I have now
 
I've never really understood keyless entry. It's no effort to press the unlock button on the key and put it into the ignition car to start it, I do it without thinking. Part of me wonders if the manufactures make it easy to steal a car, as you then get a new one, they make more money.
 
neilw said:
I've never really understood keyless entry. It's no effort to press the unlock button on the key and put it into the ignition car to start it, I do it without thinking. Part of me wonders if the manufactures make it easy to steal a car, as you then get a new one, they make more money.
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Have you never seen a horror movie where they are being chased by a murderer or zombies, they jump in the car and fumble with the keys and get killed or eaten. I would have been heading towards the horizon with my keyless entry ;)
 
As it happens I have one of each, full keyless entry/start and a keyless start. Biggest plus point is no longer have bunch of keys dangling and (over time) making the lock loose and temperamental.
 
I've suspected some had been fully cracked. It was always going to happen unless they kept patching them, which they don't. Now there are basically millions of cars broadcasting vulnerable networks. There is no physical security like on old cars and physical security is always the strongest layer.

It happens to anything wireless eventually. Algorithms get leaked by insiders, new vulnerabilities found etc. The time to crack it goes from billions of years to a few seconds after X years. It's why WIFI encryption has recently moved to WPA3. WPA2 got broken, just like WEP did before that.

You have to think of a keyless cars as having no security from the factory. Find other ways to secure it which will require physical effort and take time to figure out. That will deter thieves.
 
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Bear said:
Have you never seen a horror movie where they are being chased by a murderer or zombies, they jump in the car and fumble with the keys and get killed or eaten. I would have been heading towards the horizon with my keyless entry ;)
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Not if someone had stolen your car though...
 
Seen a short snippet of the neighbour's CCTV which shows someone hanging around the car for several minutes around between 2:55am-3am.

Waiting to see more as it looks like they've wirelessly gained access. Seems Fiesta's are easy targets too.
 
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