Wild CPU usage

[DJ85]

To start off I have solved the problem, it took long enough doing screenshots thought I’d still post anyway as I still have some questions........

so I’ve been playing about with my new laptop and I noticed every time I launch a game my fans go wild and it takes about 3-4 mins for the game to start. So checked task manager and it seems my CPU usage it at 100% all the time

Once the game loads I can play I no problem at all. It I checked after 10 mins and still at 100% surely can’t be right?

I closed the game and then right clicked on the battery and moved from high performance to balanced and it dropped to 3% usage. That’s a fair drop isn’t it? Is that right?

I never had time to test if the load up times were better on balanced mode but they should be right? As less cpu usage?
Never even noticed it was on high performance mode.

Do I have to much proceses running? Don’t have a lot going on/installed. Games,PS,office. And pretty much everything is disabled in startup on msconfig.

Also Can someone help with my cooling?

I have it set to advanced so the hotter it gets the faster the fans go but can someone tell me what the differences between my 2 settings are? They are default.
CPU is set at 40% is that before the fans kick in? And the gpu at 0% is that ok?

Just noticed there’s more questions than I thought but any help would be grateful

 

[DJ85]

This is plugged in, I don’t get access to some of the power setups in dragon centre when it is un plugged. Must exceed the battery’s limits.
Here is a picture of my battery.

It’s the battery that came with it so I’m assuming that it’s the correct one.

It’s big enough anyways nearly as heavy as the laptop I was shocked! I’ll get more pictures up of CPUz later on in the day once it’s fired up.

 

[DJ85]

Superfetch doesn’t seem to be in the list?
I’ve just put my laptop on and checked task manager -100%
Went to task manager, must be defaulted to start on high performance. I clicked it to balanced and CPU is back between 2-12%
Is there a way to make balanced default?

 

[DJ85]

Soons I change to high performance it jumps straight to 100% with WMI provider host taking up 50% of the 100% back in to balanced = back down to 2-3% seems wen changing to sport mode in dragon centre put windows into high performance mode and back up to 100%

Yeh well it’s an MSI if you haven’t already guessed

 

[DJ85]

Could task manager be wrong? I’ve just noticed on one says 2% and task manage 100%
Also if you notice the usage changes to other things quite a lot

 

[DJ85]

Ok I have stopped the service, I have task manager, dragon centre and power options open

If I put dragon centre into game mode it flicks to high power in power options and goes to 100% cpu usage. If I go to balanced back down to 1%

Now I’m getting system lock ups so enabled the service again and restarted seems fine. Was takin forever to open stuff and it was half opening and not responding?

Maybe just have to live with the balanced feature I don’t want to run the cpu on full all the time

 

[DJ85]

I’m offshore at the moment so I can’t do a windows update check but will be the first thing I do when I get home, I’m using bullguard I got a free year with the laptop.
I have noticed if I put it into game mode in dragon centre then go to power options and stick it to balanced manually it drops and stays at gaming mode so I will see how it goes tomorrow I’ll try a few games and leave it going for a bit. Never seems to get hot or stutter in games or anything so that’s a good sign but longest I’ve had a game in for is about an hour! Hasn’t been ran in proper yet

 

[DJ85]

I have got the killer lan installed it came pre installed haven even opened it though, will it run in the background? Usb boost and storage boost also both off

 

[DJ85]

I’m not 100% that it is, when I right click the battery and go to power options and move it from balanced to performance it goes straight to 100%.
Also not that I use it but it can’t be turned off but dragon centre controls th lights on the keyboard

 

[DJ85]

I’ll uninstall it all when I get home and see if that helps. Internet where I am is nearly non existent so just incase I have re install something I’ll wait. Can get rid of most I’ll just leave on dragon centre for now.
If I delete it will it mean my keyboard will stay the same colours all the time? Trying to find a colour just now that doesn’t get annoying after a while.
Also I’m playing my games offline does killer lan still run in the background?

@willhub if you have dragon centre, power options and task manager open and put dragon centre to sport does power options move to high performance instead of balanced and then cpu goes straight to 100% that’s what I’m getting.
So I guess deleting dragon centre wouldn’t help much as if I move it from high power to balanced in the power options screen it drops and back to high power it goes straight back up (not in dragon centre)

I’ll maybe try uninstalling things one by one tomorrow see how it goes testing in between

 

[DJ85]

Also one Must be reading wrong as in my last picture you’ll see dragon centre says cpu usage is 2% and task manager says 100% but it can’t be hot as the fans would ramp up

 

[DJ85]

I use Dragon Centre I find it quite helpful, doubt it's that never had a problem with it. I have mine on turbo mostly, but I changed it to Sport and I can't change the settings at the bottom right of start but when I look at power options it's in high performance and I don't get 100% CPU.

Coming from another Msi gl62 6qf I’ve never had problems either and one of the main reasons why I picked it over other laptops, but this dragon centre s a lot more updated so it’s not the same one. I have the problem that soons you click turbo it goes to high performance then 100%
Today I will uninstall all th Msi software one by one and try in between and if I still get the problem I’ll try superfetch again. Going to keep dragon centre to the end though just incase as it’s handy,
Yeah windows updated itself the other day.

 

[DJ85]

Also it’s not when I open anything it’s an instant jump and whatever I seem to be doing at the time is what is using the usage, if that helps any

 

[DJ85]

No not yet mate.
The last couple days I’ve removed the bloatware one by one testing usage in between.
Now the only thing I have on my laptop is dragon centre,office, photoshop,steam and games.
Seems to be when I go to sport in DC it goes to performance mode in power options then 100% cpu.
I’ve tried to stop and disable superfetch in services, open power options and change to high performance and left for 5 mins in which it stayed at 100% the whole time till I put It back to balanced.

Question,
If cpu usage is at 100% should it no get hot? Then in turn make the fans whirl faster? I have it set to advanced so the hotter it gets the faster they go. That doesn’t happen. The laptop seems to sit quiet and cool enough.

Once I’m home on Monday I’ll uninstall DC then see how that goes, don’t want to do it now as I won’t get it back on with download speeds of 40kb/s

 

[DJ85]

At 100% you'd expect it to burn your left if you had laptop on your lap, so if not something dodgy going on.

Just sits at 100% doesn’t get hot and doesn’t heat up

What is the task that takes it to 100% though? is it that dragon rubbish?
I would bin it right now and use the windows profiles to do power management.

Just depends it shifts back and fore if I open a program then that’s where the usage goes,

I’ll uninstall DC tonight see how I get on, failing that, I could do a fresh install? Just filled my HD up with games though, does the pc refresh keep your stuff if it’s all on the second HD?

 

[DJ85]

Before I uninstall DC. What about cooling? What will my fans be like?
There set to go faster as my gpu and cpu get hotter?
Will it just do it auto Or will It be stuck on low? Stuck on fast?
Any other softwares I can use? Justwith being a 1070 I guess it’ll need proper cooling.

 

[DJ85]

Ok deleted DC still doesn’t help sorry for quality was more for speed but took a few snaps one on balanced everything look fine, high performance cpu max.
Will my laptop be fine gaming on balanced

Then if I click balanced it goes back to the first picture.

 

[DJ85]

Is that a cpu eater? I only stuck it on as I got a years licence with the laptop. Had AVG on my old laptop

 

[DJ85]

Ok so I’ve uninstalled bullguard, still the problem is here. I’m fully up to date graphics card driver and windows 1803.

I have windows on my ssd and all my other things on the second HD will windows fresh start only effect the ssd?

 

[DJ85]

I’ve only had it for a month and bullguard was the first thing I put on it, then it’s just been sitting downloading games off steam for a couple weeks. No harm trying malwarebytes I suppose. Pretty close to just doing a fresh start see how that goes