will a DUAL LOOP SETUP fit IN a CM1000

avatar12m · 27 Aug 2010 at 16:55

is it possible to do this , currently i have a single loop on a gtx480 and a i5 750.

triple rad to swiftech pump/ek res

was thinking of spliting it into 2 loops with a double rad on the cpu but replacing the pump res with that nice new ek dual loop res.

questions are will it all fit in the case ?
what temps would it drop buy ?

thanks

JeffyB · 27 Aug 2010 at 17:38

Apparently it's actually better to have 1 bigger single loop than a dual loop, was tested by gabe from swiftech over at xs.

Scoobie Dave · 27 Aug 2010 at 19:29

JeffyB said:
Apparently it's actually better to have 1 bigger single loop than a dual loop, was tested by gabe from swiftech over at xs.

I dont suppose you have the link for this?

JonJ678 · 27 Aug 2010 at 20:02

He'll be right for some conditions and wrong for others.

A gpu is quite happy at much higher temps than an overclocked cpu. So two loops is worth it for thermal isolation.

@op depends on you. Can you see a place for a second radiator? If so two loops will fit. Otherwise they wont.

w3bbo · 27 Aug 2010 at 22:22

JeffyB said:
Apparently it's actually better to have 1 bigger single loop than a dual loop, was tested by gabe from swiftech over at xs.

This would be the same gabe that implemented aluminium in a copper loop but refused to acknowledge the problem for quite some time (did he ever?)? Swiftech lost a lot of credability in any of there 'testing' and 'results' after that for me

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JeffyB · 27 Aug 2010 at 23:58

Seems many held in high regard in the watercooling comunity have fallen foul of something over the years. I think it's still the case a single big loop will outperform 2 smaller ones.

momo56 · 28 Aug 2010 at 01:03

I came across this video of a triple loop setup in a cm1000 so daul loop should be ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqcOhppXPAk&feature=related

I switched from a single loop to a double to a triple loop the past few months and with my triple loop I get about 4-5 degrees cooler temps. The ambient temps were about the same and my single loop were two d5's in series so I doubt flow restriction was a big issue.

momo56 · 28 Aug 2010 at 01:08

Scoobie Dave said:
I dont suppose you have the link for this?

http://www.swiftnets.com/Technical/Dual Loop versus Single.pdf

JeffyB · 28 Aug 2010 at 01:30

And here is the thread from xs
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=254683

w3bbo · 28 Aug 2010 at 09:13

It all depends on the equipment involved, what needs cooling and what you have to cool it. In certain scenraios a single loop will perform slightly better, in others separate loops will be the winner. I tried a single loop in my setup and CPU temps were not as good as single thanks to the heatdump from the chipset and two GPU's. This, bear in mind, is with four PA 120.3's so restriction could have added to this which is where my problem lies with big single loops opposed to two separate ones.

momo56 · 28 Aug 2010 at 16:27

w3bbo said:
It all depends on the equipment involved, what needs cooling and what you have to cool it. In certain scenraios a single loop will perform slightly better, in others separate loops will be the winner. I tried a single loop in my setup and CPU temps were not as good as single thanks to the heatdump from the chipset and two GPU's. This, bear in mind, is with four PA 120.3's so restriction could have added to this which is where my problem lies with big single loops opposed to two separate ones.

What pump(s) ?

avatar12m · 31 Aug 2010 at 09:30

thanks for replies, lol looking at the triple loops setup i guess it will fit.

currently my gpu sits at 62 max underload 30oc room temp
cpu is at 52 under above conditions, was just trying to lower the overall temp 10oc or so.

w3bbo · 31 Aug 2010 at 09:48

momo56 said:
What pump(s) ?

2x DDC18w

mast3r · 31 Aug 2010 at 09:58

two loops of the same spec would be better than one loop, this is simple!

JeffyB · 31 Aug 2010 at 11:29

mast3r said:
two loops of the same spec would be better than one loop, this is simple!

Thats not always the case, theres plenty of data that shows 1 bigger loop will provide better overall temperatures than 2 smaller ones. There are exceptions with very big loops where your getting to the point of diminishing returns as you are so close to ultra low deltas compared to ambient.