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javindo

javindo

javindo

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Hello - first post! :D Long time lurker... not a virgin builder either (sorry if I just coined that horrific phrase).

Anyway, I'm looking to build a half decent gaming rig and after much deliberation I've come to the following conclusion:

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 680 Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £289.99 (£579.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £275.99
1 x Asus Z87 SABERTOOTH Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £199.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs - BitFenix Shinobi XL Big-Tower Case - Black - Noise Dampened £145.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16Gb (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Quad Channel kit (PV316G186C9QK) £119.99
1 x OCZ ZX Series 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £115.99
1 x Zalman CNPS11X Performa Heatsink & Fan £33.98
1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
Total : £1,497.41 (includes shipping : £13.75).




I'll be re-using my SSD + HDD from a previous build hence the lack of that here, I already have peripherals and a 1440p Dell 27" monitor hence wanting a bit more oomph on graphics.

I really like the look of the board but it doesn't seem to support 2khz RAM hence I've gone for 1866.

I'm fairly intent on going for this but I would appreciate an "idiot check" from the more experienced people here! Thanks for any advice :)
 
I'd change the PSU & motherboard to these:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £172.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
Total : £314.34 (includes shipping : £9.50).



& Drop the RAM down to 8GB unless you'll be doing some video rendering/work?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual CHannel Kit (PV38G213C1K) £65.99
Total : £74.69 (includes shipping : £7.25).



Oh and one of these heatsinks as well!

YOUR BASKET
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler £57.59
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £43
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler £32.99
Total : £144.67 (includes shipping : £9.25).



Good case, wouldn't bother with the noise dampening, much rather get this instead:

YOUR BASKET
1 x NZXT H630 Silent Ultra Enthusiast Tower Case - Matte Black £129.95
Total : £141.65 (includes shipping : £9.75).



Noise dampened already, supports amazing water-cooling options and air cooling, very very easy to work with, looks fantastic and lots of good features.
 
If you're only using it for gaming you don't really need the i7-4770k or 16gb RAM. If you swap down to an i5-4670k and 8gb RAM you can use the money saved to get dual 770s rather than 680s.
 
Thanks for the helpful responses, I'll have a look through and take it into consideration!

I'm not building it primarily for gaming, sorry I probably should have specialised that it will be a workstation with the additional capacity to be a decent gaming rig. I want it to last and be durable because I move around a lot (hence the mobo). I'll be doing a lot of simulation work next year with my degree dissertation (large mathematical and graphical models) so I'm assuming the 4770k would be a better bet than an i5 for that, as well as all the RAM! (I'll be writing the simulations myself and optimisation isn't my biggest concern lol)

I definitely prefer some of the heatsink options, want to avoid the all-in-one liquid though because as I mentioned I need it to take a lot of moving around etc with little/no maintenance preferably. I also prefer the current case a bit more because I'm vane and think it looks a bit nicer, however I'll look at the suggestion with a bit more detail. Suggested new case actually looks nicer on closer inspection!

Re: the new RAM suggestion from TRG - isn't that RAM "too fast" for the motherboard? Sorry if I sound incredibly stupid!

Thanks again for the help, I realise I'm being a bit defensive of my picked parts but I probably should have been more specific about my needs!

Edit: Oh and I will definitely be swapping for that suggested PSU! Thanks :)
 
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Stick with the i7 and 16GB of ram for sure then.
I'd get 2x8GB modules instead of 4x4GB modules however, as Haswell *likes dual channel!

The motherboard I suggested is fantastic and cheaper than the one you have put up there, Gigabyte have UK RMA so if it goes bad (which it most likely wont) you don't have to send it across the globe.

K2 is a brilliant cooler, will keep that chip nice and cool, even overclocked!

Please do look at the case, you'll see what I mean if you dabble through the pictures.
 
ThaReaperGuy said:
Stick with the i7 and 16GB of ram for sure then.
I'd get 2x8GB modules instead of 4x4GB modules however, as Haswell *likes dual channel!

The motherboard I suggested is fantastic and cheaper than the one you have put up there, Gigabyte have UK RMA so if it goes bad (which it most likely wont) you don't have to send it across the globe.

K2 is a brilliant cooler, will keep that chip nice and cool, even overclocked!

Please do look at the case, you'll see what I mean if you dabble through the pictures.
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Thanks for the advice! I definitely like the look of the new motherboard, saves a bit of money too, would you say it's better in any way (other than price and brand) than the original one though? I really like the idea of the dust guarding.

If I were to put something like this on either motherboard (which are rated to support up to 1866mhz) would it just run at 1866/is it easy enough to get it at the higher 2k+ speed?


1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV316G213C1K) £119.99

That case definitely looks nicer, but it is pretty huge... I'll have a bit of a snoop around the various YouTube reviews etc to get a proper grasp of that!

Edit: Also, sorry to bombard you with questions, but do you think the K2 would fit over that RAM?
 
The board is a great overclocker, so you'll get a lot out of that 4770k, plus will handle those 2 cards nicely as well, the dust guard is pointless IMO, dust won't settle on the board as it's horizontal and has airflow flowing past, plus cases are good with their dust proofing. It's the graphics card which I find has more dust on due to it sticking out! :p

You can tone the RAM down to that setting if you wish. However the Gigabyte board will definitely support the faster RAM, I'd be surprised if the Asus doesn't actually support it either.

Have you considered a smaller case/build if you need to mobile?

The K2 will fit, the RAM is very low, has like 2mm added on top which isn't an issue if I am correct.
 
ThaReaperGuy said:
Have you considered a smaller case/build if you need to mobile?
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Moving isn't so much of a problem but I don't want it to take up half of my room! I think you've sold me on the motherboard, does seem a bit excessive because I'd mostly be paying for the durability etc, not exactly taking it to a war zone.

Here's my updated basket:

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 680 Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £289.99 (£579.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £275.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £172.99
1 x NZXT H630 Silent Ultra Enthusiast Tower Case - Matte Black £129.95
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV316G213C1K) £119.99
1 x OCZ ZX Series 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £115.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler £57.59
1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
Total : £1,479.17 (includes shipping : £14.75).




Inside it isn't going to look very nice with that mix of yellow/orange/gold but I'm going for a window-less case anyway :P
 
Go with the Seasonic power supply! :)
Definitely worth it for £5 more.

Rest looks great, I'm thinking whether instead of 2 680's just get 1 780?
If you're only using one screen at that resolution the 780 will be more than capable, and leaves you the option to expand further in the future?

YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2784-KR) £589.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £275.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £172.99
1 x NZXT H630 Silent Ultra Enthusiast Tower Case - Matte Black £129.95
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV316G213C1K) £119.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler £57.59
Total : £1,492.94 (includes shipping : £13.75).



Heatsink comes pre-applied with thermal paste, so you're all good without it.

EDIT: Come to think about it, scratch that. 2 680's will perform better and the price justifies it.

Comparison of the 2!
 
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ThaReaperGuy said:
Rest looks great, I'm thinking whether instead of 2 680's just get 1 780?
If you're only using one screen at that resolution the 780 will be more than capable, and leaves you the option to expand further in the future?
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Hmm I was wondering about this quite a bit, still somewhat undecided though. It does seem to perform pretty well, my main concern is would it be better at 1440p over 2 x 680s?

Edit: Also opinions on this: ?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-051-KF

Edit2: Just saw your edit, that link is fairly convincing... think I'll stick with the original 2 x MSI power 680s then!
 
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YOUR BASKET
2 x Asus GeForce GTX 680 Direct CU II V2 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £299.99 (£599.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £275.99
1 x Asus Z87 SABERTOOTH Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £199.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x NZXT H630 Silent Ultra Enthusiast Tower Case - Matte Black £129.95
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV316G213C1K) £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £43.00
1 x Arctic Silver Alumina Thermal Paste (1.75g) £3.98
Total : £1,525.74 (includes shipping : £19.10).




Not sure if I need the paste because the cooler is a refurb, also thinking of getting an extra 200mm for the front intake but they're out of stock on OCUK at the moment
 
You switched the motherboard back to the Sabertooth, if you're set on getting that board, it's up to you, the Gigabyte however I will highly suggest!

Another 200mm is not a bad idea, get a NZXT to match the stock one.
Everything else looks fine and dandy.

Heatsink will come with paste, any reason for the GPU change?
 
javindo said:
YOUR BASKET
2 x Asus GeForce GTX 680 Direct CU II V2 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £299.99 (£599.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £275.99
1 x Asus Z87 SABERTOOTH Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £199.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x NZXT H630 Silent Ultra Enthusiast Tower Case - Matte Black £129.95
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV316G213C1K) £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £43.00
1 x Arctic Silver Alumina Thermal Paste (1.75g) £3.98
Total : £1,525.74 (includes shipping : £19.10).




Not sure if I need the paste because the cooler is a refurb, also thinking of getting an extra 200mm for the front intake but they're out of stock on OCUK at the moment
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Maybe get some paste, but get a good paste such as,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound (4g) £6.98
1 x Thermalright Chill Factor 3 Tube (4g) Thermal Paste £4.19
Total : £14.15 (includes shipping : £2.48).




The OC board is honestly the best sub £250 clocking board you can find.
 
Thanks for the feedback, not too interested in too much OC past bumping up the CPU a bit to a stable state then leaving it there, overall I prefer the Asus to the Gigabyte for a few reasons (really sturdy looking, 5 year warranty, eSATA).

Changed the card from my original 680 choice because after a bit more research I think the Asus looks like it has a bit of an edge over the MSI, especially with regards to noise which is one of the aims of this rig!

Will get one of the suggested pastes, want to get the best out of the H100 - just threw in whichever one looked alright originally lol
 
foster grant said:
You could show all that very nice hardware off in this ?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-143-CS&groupid=2362&catid=1489

its just a suggestion :)
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To be honest I'm not too much of a fan of those box style cases - I like having something I can put my coffee on :P (only joking of course)

But decent acoustic panelling is something I'm looking for really and the earlier case suggestion looks like it will do that nicely, with plenty of room for the H100 whilst giving the 680s room to breathe.
 
Hmmm... might not be as quiet though which is a real concern for this project!

Is 750w enough to power that lot? Guessing the 680s + i7 + cooler pump will draw a fair bit, going to have an SSD and a few HDDs on top of that which I suppose won't count for much.
 
I'm not really the person to ask about multi GPUs sorry

and as goes HDDs and SDDs ..the case takes two HDDs or two SSDs in the case at the bottom , and any SSDs, go in an SSD cage in the off-side and sit above the PSU

but I suppose there will be some small amount of fan noise as the case has " open" grills .....although im running my fans via the mobo on silent and can hardly hear them at all...and they are not top notch fans either
 
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