Will Liverpool go into administration this Summer?

anticonscience said:
Why are people so convinced there will be no CL football for many seasons to come? Look at Spurs last season, then look at this season.

Just because they have had a wonky season does not mean next season will be the same.
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Mainly because they clearly need investment in the squad but have no money to do so.

The difference with spurs is that liverpool have stars (gerrard and torres really) who expect champions league football, whereas spurs didn't have anyone like that.

Will Gerrard stay another year? if liverpool get back into the CL next year he'll be 33 the next time he plays a CL game, which is getting past his peak, he might well go to inter or chelsea.

Torres is the same, he wants CL football and will only stay if the club spends money on new players, which they clearly don't have.

Best bet is to sell them both and rebuild for the future.
 
I'd say they should sell Gerrard as he's aging and probably not had the best of seasons, also they have enough in midfield to cope without him. The likes of Chelsea/Inter won't be interested forever.

They can't afford to get rid of Torres though as he is their only striker with any pedigree (given that Benitez always plays Kuyt on the wing).
 
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Torres is always going to be the subject of transfer talk while he's not playing CL football.

The question is should Gerrard and Torres be sold sooner rather than later ? But the bigger question is would you trust Rafa with the money raised to rebuild the team ? :confused:
 
lanzarobbie said:
i think benitez should stay, hes doing a cracking job
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Not sure whether you are being sarcastic, but if not, i agree. Given the farce that is happening off the field he is doing as well as any good mananger could do.

Most of the focus seems to be about team performance and who to blame. The far bigger problem is that even taking part in the CL last season, even though the club is gernerating more income than ever before, they are at a loss of about £50 million a year, with a current debt of around £400 million, with that figure due to be increased when someone makes sense of this season figures. Next season without the CL financial rewards make force the banks hands.

Martin Broughton, the newly appointed chairman has already been forced to meet with the FA and UEFA to prove he can meet the strict financial regulations for meeting the forthcoming seasons requirements.

That assurance must be paper thin. Banks cannot/will not loan any more to the club, and it would only take RBS to demand repayment, and i im agine it would all come tumbling down like a pack of cards.

But a lot of fair-weather fans will only skim the surface. We didn't qualify for CL, -Get rid of Rafa. Mention the names Purslow, Broughton, Hicks or Gillett and they don't have a clue who your talking about.
 
Tombstone said:
Well my point was that its nearly impossible to predict how the league and teams will be in 5 years time, let alone 15 years, 25 years or indeed "ever". Liverpool could drop into mid table obscurity for 5 years and then events occur where they return to the top of the table. Its simply not possible to accurately predict, despite the doom and gloom merchants beliefs.
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I hope they don't fall down the leagues but instead of wishing for a Sultan to come rescue Liverpool wouldn't it be more wise to actually try and address the debt?

They have an unsustainable business model.

Even if they sell there top 5 players, Gerrard, Torres, Reina, erm, ? , ? oh Mascherano must be worth £15m... Thats only around £125m, vastly short to cover the debt. It's a catch22, sell your players to fight of debt or prey the current players can make the top4 and pay of the debt with shirt sales and prize money.

Tough choices ahead...

I know from your post your not suggesting they ignore it and prey they are bought buy an oil baron or summit.
 
Oxy said:
I hope they don't fall down the leagues but instead of wishing for a Sultan to come rescue Liverpool wouldn't it be more wise to actually try and address the debt?

They have an unsustainable business model.

Even if they sell there top 5 players, Gerrard, Torres, Reina, erm, ? , ? oh Mascherano must be worth £15m... Thats only around £125m, vastly short to cover the debt. It's a catch22, sell your players to fight of debt or prey the current players can make the top4 and pay of the debt with shirt sales and prize money.

Tough choices ahead...

I know from your post your not suggesting they ignore it and prey they are bought buy an oil baron or summit.
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Same for every club tho isnt it, no club in the EPL would survive as a bonafide business, they all rely on rather loaded benefactors.

I dont think we'll do a Leeds tbh, with due respect we are and always will be a bigger club than them, so that in the short term will help us attract business and the better players, maybe not the best, but in reality we havent competed for the top players for a long long time, Torres was a player nobody else wanted.

I want both RB and the board gone, and a British manager to come in and start looking at sorting the club from top to bottom, get the academy sorted, lets get some decent local lads back into the fold, and lets forget about winning the League for the next 5 years and really sort the club out, before its too late, another 2 or 3 years of mediocrity, and we will do a Leeds.
 
Most of the Premier League would be in trouble if Sky stopped putting so much money in to the league.

Same thing applies if clubs sold TV rights individually.
 
Liverpool would do alright out of that. But we'd just have a Spain situation with the bottom clubs scraping by on a few million while the top ones pick up 100mill + a season.
 
DanH84 said:
you can hardly absolve him from all blame though.
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There are team perfomance issues, and then there are the financial/business model issues. I don't hold rafa accountable for the finacial problems.

He may not have bought 'ideal' players, but he certainly hasn't been a drain on the financial resources that some would have you believe.

The managerial issues are far less worrying than the financial health of the club.
 
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Gilly said:
An even bigger question is whether he'd even get a sniff at the cash or whether it would go on the debt.
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Spot on. And the same goes for any potential new manager. A huge percentage of an revenue generated would have to be used to offset any debt. Sell your best players,- and you don't look such an attractive proposition for any new buyers. Tough times ahead.

Its niave to think we could attract any manager we like given the current financial difficulty. Not sure how sacking rafa and giving him a £12-£15 million payoff makes any financial sense at the moment, regardless of peoples managerial views.
 
Gilly said:
An even bigger question is whether he'd even get a sniff at the cash or whether it would go on the debt.
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Yep agree with that. You have to have a sellable product and not just buy debt. After all investment is about getting a return on your money.
 
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