Will Ryzen 6000 CPUs be based on the N6 fab process (Warhol chip) and release in 2021?

[g67575]

Do you reckon we will know more about new AMD releases / plans when Rocket Lake releases?

Is the assumption that the Ryzen 6000 series = Zen 4 (release in 2022)?

 

[g67575]

6000 series is zen3+ With 10% ipc increase over Zen3 on tsmc 6nm/enhanced 7nm (supports DDR5 and pcie4). Target launch window is end of 2021

Sounds great if true, please could you let me know what the source of that info is?

I'm wondering if I should buy cheap B550 motherboard + 5800x and DDR4 4000mhz RAM at the moment, my DDR3 1600mhz RAM isn't nearly fast enough for some games.

 

[g67575]

It's pretty hard to ignore the price / performance of the i7 10700F (4.8ghz turbo) for around £240 with a cooler, will be interesting to see what Intel prices the 11700 and 11700F at.

I hope there are some budget Intel boards that support upto DDR 4000 mhz or more.

 

[g67575]

lads, please find another thread to derail, cheers

 

[g67575]

I think a lot of OC forum users seem to only be interested in graphics cards at the moment. Nvidia has received very little praise for their initial move to address the supply situation, I think because it's such a polarized issue - And not one they are responsible for (in my view, it's caused by the poorly thought out Proof of Work algorithm).

If a 8 core Rocket Lake 11700 / 11700F (non K version) could be had for ~£300, I think Intel would be onto a winner there, I'm assuming they will charge more than the Comet Lake 10700 /10700F CPUs. Does anyone think gamers will 'need' more than DDR4 4000mhz in their PCs, to optimally play games released in the next 3-4 years? This is just so I can decide whether to wait until DDR5 motherboards, or buy high end DDR4 RAM sometime this year.

EDIT - Apparently, the EU price of the 11700F is just €282, which is ~£245, just a 4.1% increase in price, although I don't know if these prices include VAT.
Link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/277443/intel-rocket-lake-s-processors-european-pricing-leaked

The Rocket Lake models replacing the 10 core Comet Lake CPUs are apparently getting a price reduction, to make up for the reduction in cores to 8.

 

[g67575]

Looks very possible, similar to another roadmap I saw a while ago. If the 6nm fab process utilizes EUV, I think most of the performance improvement will come from higher clock frequencies, with little to no IPC improvement. Maybe they will improve the memory controller too? Looks like it will be out before Alder Lake.

I think people waiting for an early release of Zen 4 + platform upgrade in 2022 will be a bit disappointed, but this was what I thought they'd do, with zen 4 likely to release 1 year later than 'warhol'.

 

[g67575]

I'm still sceptical about the codename of the CPU itself, we've seen nothing that confirms 6nm CPUs or Warhol exist at all, yet. I think it could be 3-4 more months before AMD confirms their roadmap for this year.

 

[g67575]

If a refresh of Zen 3 is really cancelled, Intel should do very well with Alder Lake (after many years of quite small, incremental improvements on 14nm), early next year. I think this would only increase the chance of Alder Lake launching next year also (not Q4 2021).

Considering that TSMC's improved 5nm fab. process (N5P) is scheduled for volume production sometime this year, I don't see a reason why we wouldn't see Zen 4 CPUs released by Q3 2022, particularly if AMD wants to release a competitor to Alder Lake more quickly.

Link here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1602...technology-details-full-node-scaling-for-2h22

 

[g67575]

I dont think we will see 6000 series processors this year with current chip shortage and AMD is on top when it comes to performance

Yup, this decision could be made purely on the fail that was Rocket Lake.