Will they every get it right?

[badgermonkey]

I know it's how you felt it was, but I feel the complete opposite. EQ2 was a horrible grind, whereas I always felt with WoW that I could do something for 90 minutes, then move somewhere else for an hour, then go have a laugh in IF and still move forward - every time I logged into EQ2 it was a matter of finding a group (and forced grouping does my nut in) and camping a spot for as long as possible. If I didn't, I felt like I'd gotten nowhere.

Horses for courses, I guess

Well ill admit i only got as far as level 22 in EQ2, so i may have missed some out. But then.... i just ran around and had a laugh anyway

 

[HangTime]

£8.99 gets you a months worth of play, lets say 28 days to make it simple. Therefore, your 8.99 is buying you 672 hours with which you can play the game. This means you are paying a whole 1.3 pence per hour. Bank breaking or what. I never get why people throw hissy fits because of mmo fees, they're so much better value than buying a normal game from the shelf (unless its a replayable classic like CS or C&C).

A fair point (although I doubt many people can play that many hours a month!) in regard to the cost... a simple way of looking at it would be to say that the average game will last people a month, and yet costs more than £9.

One thing I would say however is that games 'off the shelf' can offer very good intense gameplay experiences which are conistently good throughout the majority of the game. Compared to the MMORPG experience which can be a bit of a, well, grind at times. So out of those 672 hours spent playing WoW how many are genuinely enjoyable?

 

[badgermonkey]

One thing I would say however is that games 'off the shelf' can offer very good intense gameplay experiences which are conistently good throughout the majority of the game. Compared to the MMORPG experience which can be a bit of a, well, grind at times. So out of those 672 hours spent playing WoW how many are genuinely enjoyable?

Today i played 4 hours.

First hour and a half was fantastic, we took a fulll raid to UC and killed the boss people in the place where they go to enter their BGs. We won, and hightailed it out of there. (As in we won, then died, some huge AOE spells suddenly attacked us from 6 level 60 mages (Plus others) behind us, come out of nowhere.

The rest of the time the guild ran instances. Low level instances. Totally naked, wearing nothing but the guild tabard. No weapons either (Bare knuckles only!) Was a good laugh.

Now THAT is WoW at it's best

 

[Indie]

A nice idea but lets work it out. £8.99 gets you a months worth of play, lets say 28 days to make it simple. Therefore, your 8.99 is buying you 672 hours with which you can play the game. This means you are paying a whole 1.3 pence per hour. Bank breaking or what. I never get why people throw hissy fits because of mmo fees, they're so much better value than buying a normal game from the shelf (unless its a replayable classic like CS or C&C). But anyway, if Blizzard did feel kind enough to refund you for every hour the servers are down, you would only be receiving about 5p a week.

Would that be better?

GIVE ME my 25p a month!!!!!!

i totally agree, even with a crappy part time sales assistant job (i used to manage, and still have a load of cash to get ****** with)... £8.99 is not a lot of money at all, for the gameplay and enjoyment you get.. and if your not getting it, go away !

and yup C&C has amazing gameplay, i cant wait until lthe next one come sout in march 07 - C&C3 Tiberium Wars ! videos/screeny's look amazing!

and i enjoy it everytime i play it, i owouldnt play it otherwise, only times it has annoyed me is server downtime during instances - which has only occured for me 3 times in the past year n abit of gameplay

No swearing! FF.

 

[Buzza]

Online gaming that is in the form of WOW EQ2 EVE. There is always something wrong with something, ingame lag, game down, server restarts, forums not working or you can't log on cause the main isp in X country....... Extended maintance to fix the problem from the last extended maintance, hardware upgrade bla bla bla.

Anything running on a PC is going to be unreliable, theres so many factors that make it impossible to run 100 percent. Whether it be the hardware used by the Player or the MMO company, the internet or the software(windows, game itself). Also, If its popular the servers will get overwhelmed making it even harder to run, imagine the traffic that the servers have to cope with for thousands of players.

BTW WOW and Eve are superb, wish i could play them again