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builder22

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Sketchup, Photoshop, Excel and Ableton? using the onboard graphics?

monitor is 1920x1200

could it be any cheaper?

I have win 10/kb/mouse/monitor

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £406.56
(includes shipping: £11.70)



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eaither want something cheap as poss, or something half decent using onboard graphics at first, then get a nice card at some point
 
You've not got a graphics card on that list? Theres none on that cpu...

That spec would run what your asking (as long as you get a cheap graphics card) but as the motherboard only has the 2 memory slots you maybe better getting a single 8gb stick of RAM to leave room for future expansion if system longevity is important to you (though running with a single stick will have a slight performance impact)
 
ahh I thought the on-board was part of the motherboard!...not upgraded for while

I don't really have any need to upgrade but need the PC for work....started to get random errors and the newest component in current pc is 6+ year old (except PSU needed replaced few months ago but it's an under £20 job). E8400 abit ip35 pro gtx 470. So better just starting from scratch

Would getting a board/cpu with onboard graphics and forgetting about the graphics card for now be viable?
 
builder22 said:
ahh I thought the on-board was part of the motherboard!...not upgraded for while

I don't really have any need to upgrade but need the PC for work....started to get random errors and the newest component in current pc is 6+ year old (except PSU needed replaced few months ago but it's an under £20 job). E8400 abit ip35 pro gtx 470. So better just starting from scratch

Would getting a board/cpu with onboard graphics and forgetting about the graphics card for now be viable?
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For Sketchup, Photoshop and Excel, sure. No idea about Ableton.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £320.95
(includes shipping: Free)



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Going this route, you'd stick a wanted thread in the Member's Market, for Skylake or Kabylake i5/i7, and nab the best you can for £80 or so. Keep tabs on what's already being offered, too.

Being opened B-Grade, hopefully OcUK won't mind flashing the BIOS to make it Kaby compatible. A service they provide for new boards but you have to return it to them when they are new.
 
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builder22 said:
ahh I thought the on-board was part of the motherboard!...not upgraded for while

I don't really have any need to upgrade but need the PC for work....started to get random errors and the newest component in current pc is 6+ year old (except PSU needed replaced few months ago but it's an under £20 job). E8400 abit ip35 pro gtx 470. So better just starting from scratch

Would getting a board/cpu with onboard graphics and forgetting about the graphics card for now be viable?
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There is no such thing as on-mobo graphics any more. Graphics are integrated into (some) CPUs such as Intel's mainstream CPUs and AMD's APU line, as well as the now defunct AM1 series from AMD.
The Ryzen chips for desktop, however, have no integrated graphics whatsoever. If you're looking for a decent CPU with integrated graphics look that has similar performance to the chip you selected look for an 8000 series i3 from Intel.
 
Ahh ok...I’ve looked in to upgrading every so often over the years and it’s always been i5-6600k that looked best....still popular on the o uk shop....is it because it’s good for overclocking? i38100 looks better stock but much less£? I’d just want to stay stock speeds...standard cooler etc

Danny75 said:
For Sketchup, Photoshop and Excel, sure. No idea about Ableton.


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Going this route, you'd stick a wanted thread in the Member's Market, for Skylake or Kabylake i5/i7, and nab the best you can for £80 or so. Keep tabs on what's already being offered, too.

Being opened B-Grade, hopefully OcUK won't mind flashing the BIOS to make it Kaby compatible. A service they provide for new boards but you have to return it to them when they are new.
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Thanks Danny... I’d want to stick to new tho...bit daft but the 2nd hand stuff would always get the blame for anything that didn’t work!


I’ll have to do some googling and familiarise myself with new cpus and boards....having something that could take a nice god card in the future looking more likely rather than cheap as poss
 
thanks Bongo....that would do the trick, as I say it's either cheap as poss or a system that easily does 1080p/60fps+. Budget not set at all but no point having something in between...if it does games I'd want it to do it well!

pretty sure every one of my 'what to buy' posts over the years have gone this way..end up looking at things twice the price...then just don't bother..only this time I need to buy something as the PC's on it's last legs

I just chose the ryzen as it was cheap/popular on the ocuk website..always had intel/nvidia...need to look in to coffe lake/ryzen etc tonight. Good to have a starting point tho :)
 
I just did a search on that board. The chipset appears to have onboard graphics:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-a320-chipset-motherboard-amd,34135.html

Have a look at the table half way down...

Product
Asus Prime A320M-K
Socket
AM4
Chipset
A320
Form Factor
Micro-ATX
Memory Support
2 x DDR4-2666 (With overclock support up to 2,933MHz or 3,200MHz.)
Onboard Graphics
HDMI 1.4b with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz

RGB with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz
Audio
Realtek ALC887 8-Channel HD Audio
LAN
Realtek RTL8111H, - Gigabit LAN Controller
Storage
4 x SATA-III (6Gbps)

- Supports RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10
USB
6 x USB 3.0

6 x USB 2.0
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There absolutely is such thing as onboard graphics provided by the chipset and not as part of an apu and it appears to me that the a320 chipset offers exactly that. On the other hand it could just be preparing for AM4 apus? It's not entirely clear if I am honest but historically some boards did provide graphics on the board rather than as an extension to an APU.
 
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Vince said:
I just did a search on that board. The chipset appears to have onboard graphics:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-a320-chipset-motherboard-amd,34135.html

Have a look at the table half way down...



There absolutely is such thing as onboard graphics provided by the chipset and not as part of an apu and it appears to me that the a320 chipset offers exactly that. On the other hand it could just be preparing for AM4 apus? It's not entirely clear if I am honest but historically some boards did provide graphics on the board rather than as an extension to an APU.
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Most Ryzen boards are APU ready, there's no on board gfx unless you get one of the as yet unreleased APUs as far as I'm aware
 
BongoHunter said:
Most Ryzen boards are APU ready, there's no on board gfx unless you get one of the as yet unreleased APUs as far as I'm aware
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You could be right, I would be tempted to throw something like a low end desktop card in there anyway something like the bottom of the line Nvidia GT thingy at less the £50 is probably a decent bet.
 
Take a look at the Intel NUC boxes. OCUK don't seem to do the cheap ones any more but here's what I bought for my mother a while back:

Intel NUC NUC6I3SYK Core i3-6100U "Skylake" Barebones Micro PC £208.29
Microsoft Windows 10 32/64-Bit - USB Pen Drive - Retail (KW9-00017) £74.96
Crucial MX300 275GB SSD M2 2280 6Gbps 3D Nand Solid State Drive (CT275MX300SSD4) £66.66
Kingston HyperX Impact Black Series 8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 CL13 SODIMM (Kit of 2) (HX421S13IBK2/8 £32.49

Take off Windows and you're looking at approx £300.
 
Quartz said:
Take a look at the Intel NUC boxes. OCUK don't seem to do the cheap ones any more but here's what I bought for my mother a while back:

Intel NUC NUC6I3SYK Core i3-6100U "Skylake" Barebones Micro PC £208.29
Microsoft Windows 10 32/64-Bit - USB Pen Drive - Retail (KW9-00017) £74.96
Crucial MX300 275GB SSD M2 2280 6Gbps 3D Nand Solid State Drive (CT275MX300SSD4) £66.66
Kingston HyperX Impact Black Series 8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 CL13 SODIMM (Kit of 2) (HX421S13IBK2/8 £32.49

Take off Windows and you're looking at approx £300.
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Extremely limited upgrades options though dude, no way is that ever going to gaming well
 
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