Poll: Will UHD be a failure?

Will UHD be a failure?

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ethan

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I know everything is 4k UHD/SUHD/OLED at the moment but can anybody imagine Joe Public rushing out to buy UHD Players with media that supports hdr10 or Dolby vision? I think the take up is going to slow and minimal given the fact most people are still quite content to get ripped off paying for DVD.
 
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As is usual with these things, the technoheads are the early adopters and are often willing to pay through the nose for being the first. Sometimes this backfires (Betamax vs VHS & HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray) but often they're happy to take that chance. The chicken/egg scenario always comes to pass with no one buying without content and no content without the market there to buy it. Now that Sky have launched their UHD service with live football every week (as many as 4 matches per weekend) along with Movies, some general entertainment shows and from 2017 the F1, I can see 4k TV sales beginning to ramp up, and prices are coming down too. You can now get a 50" UHD/4k TV for under £500.

So, no, it won't be a failure, but with far more DVD's still sold compared to Blu-Ray's, DVD will live for a good while longer.
 
If Sky and other services ramp up their UHD content there's no reason why it'll be a failure imo.

I'm looking forward to watching football in 4K, and i'm hoping by this next next year the golf majors will all be in 4K. The masters will be stunning.
 
It has no chance of failing. It's getting cheaper to buy, there is more content coming out but not enough.

By 2018, you are going to see 4k adoption rate go up hugely because of the increased 4k output.
 
It's not failed in my living room 4K footie is awesome .

The sky Q deal I got worked out cheaper then my Sky HD , albeit a new 18 month contract .

Sky Q silver gets rid a multi room subscription .
 
Sport in 4k with sky is a dodgey one. If the country broadcasting the event doesn't do 4k your 4k chanel is basically upscaling.

Just to add . I do have a panny 4k player and subscribe to 4k Netflix.
 
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It will not be a failure, I'll be upgrading my TV when I see OLED UHD drop even further in price, right now you can get a LG 55" OLED UHD for £1400 although I'm waiting for it to be developed further.
 
It'll definitely become the norm sooner or later once costs come down, same as Full HD.

Personally I'm going to pick up a 1080p OLED once they break the magic 1k EUR barrier. Small possibility 4k might get there at the same time of course depending on how much production capacity they bother to allocate to the lower res panels.
 
It'll succeed primarily through ubiquity. Every TV will be 4K and broadcasts will become the norm eventually.

The fact is that, at normal living room viewing distances, you need a large set to see the difference clearly. Even on a 55 inch it's marginal compared to a well-upscaled HD image. Not many people will have sets that large, not because of price as that will always drop, but because 60+ inch sets are simply too large for most living rooms.
 
agree will succeed since cost of production of a 4k screen will become little more than 1080 (unless a cheaper screen tech where cannot make pixels as small appears - plasmas limitation ?)

Progress to broadcasting 1080i on freeview (and slightly less freesat) is slow, still a lot of 576i, due to lack of material and bandwidth ?
so do not know how long 4k might take ? (but maybe 4k will be mainly a streaming media if you have the fibre broadband to support it)

In the meantime Upscaling sd to 1080, not even mentioning 4k, does not look brilliant.
 
I'm in the market for a new TV, keep looking around and reading.

Personally, I don't game on the xbox anymore so can't see me investing in a new gen console. Sky+ doesn't do 4k. I can't see any benefit in myself getting one.

I'll be looking at a 1080 with HDR and the options to output audio.

I've seen talk today regarding 8k TV's. Yes I can see the tech being popular with joe public down the line but not immediately, we still have SD content being transmitted, until they force themselves to publish HD/UHD people won't see the need.
 
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I've seen talk today regarding 8k TV's. Yes I can see the tech being popular with joe public down the line
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I can't.

It's not just a case of "more is better" when it comes to resolution. You'll need to be viewing on something like a 100" screen to see any difference between 4K and 8K and the average person just won't be in that market.

There comes a point where you reach "enough pixels" for typical screen sizes and viewing distances. Screen sizes will also cap out at the point where any larger would dominate living rooms too much.

I think we're already there with screen sizes. 55 and 65 inch seem to be two very popular screen sizes right now and I think these are large enough for 99% of buyers. I think these sizes will remain the most popular for now. 4K on this size of screen is more than enough, rendering 8K pointless.
 
Looks as though its going to take off eventually. Comes down to the content suppliers though and how much its advertised.

If sky start to slowly convert their hd lineup to uhd and virgin follow suit, with lots of advertising how we all desperately need it then people will start to adopt. Not sure how quickly though.

I take my parents as an example, they could see the difference between sd and hd, but now they are more than happy with 1080 still, after several years.

I think the need to upgrade isn't as urgent, as a nice 1080 stream still looks great, whereas, sd always looked poop :)
 
UHD will succeed. After a slow start more and more people will see it and get hooked. Once you're in you'll never look back as the picture is on another level.

We do have a UHD HDR tv/blu-ray player, Amazon 4k and Sky UHD.
 
ethan said:
I know everything is 4k UHD/SUHD/OLED at the moment but can anybody imagine Joe Public rushing out to buy UHD Players with media that supports hdr10 or Dolby vision? I think the take up is going to slow and minimal given the fact most people are still quite content to get ripped off paying for DVD.
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I think the take up will be slow by Joe Public too, but that doesnt constitute a failure in my eyes.

so i voted no :)
 
UHD Footie on BT Sport is beautiful. Daredevil in UHD is sublime. UHD Bluray's are just gobsmacking.

Just ludicrous that we now have 3 different picture quality ie SD, HD and UHD.

Bout time they canned SD and forced people away from it similar to when they stopped analogue TV.
 
Before we even get to UHD, maybe we should ask if even BD is considered a mainstream success?
I'm conscious of the amount of DVDs still for sale, implying that there's a whole bunch of the public out there without a BD player.

Has BD simply been bypassed by streaming for the majority of the public?

If so, strikes me that the drive for resolution is most probably going to be driven by streaming, rather than disk/player availability.

I'm also very conscious that a close friend works in the movie industry, where costs are very much a concern (particularly is his arena of CGI). Most movies are still not made in 4k. Will that change? Who knows.
 
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