Will USA attack Iran eventually?

I thought the US would bomb the carp out of Iran before this whole issue of Iran supplying weapons to insurgents came to light!

This is textbook behavior by the Bush administration. They've made a big mess of post-invasion Iraq and they need to shift the focus. The whole nuclear Iran issue was good, but it wasn't really getting the US people on side. Now we have Iran directly involved in the killing of US troops and undermining US efforts towards stability. It was the Iranians fault all along, you see? ;)

It's been pretty obvious to me that the US is looking to dominate and control the Middle East since 9/11 (inside job or not...) and that means crippling Iran. Bush and Cheney want to do this before they leave office. Obviously we're not talking an all out invasion - that would be impossible. It will be the usual Cruise Missile and stealth bomber approach.
 
gizmoy2k said:
If they want a nuke so bad......give em one.
:D

I think Iran are asking for it tbh... But that is just by going from what the news tells me.

Who would stand by Iran if they were attacked - like, who'd be their allies?
 
furnace said:
:D

I think Iran are asking for it tbh... But that is just by going from what the news tells me.

Who would stand by Iran if they were attacked - like, who'd be their allies?

Syria is one.
And all the Islamic Militant groups floating around the world

There are others but i forget(Possably Saudi Arabia but im not too sure)
 
havent really paid allot of attention to any of these "wars" but i asume oil is still a major part of them

so random question here

where does china get oil from ? they must be almostneeding as much as the US these days

how come they dont need to start pointless wars so they can get more of it ?


anyone think theyre up to no good , its always the quiet ones isnt it :p
 
I say nuke Iran, America, China, basically the whole lot of them with our tridents, then rule the world for the next millenia to make Britain great again, and to take us back to our imperialist heritage of past. On with the attacks.. for blood and honour :cool: There is absolutely no point sitting on the sidelines.
 
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They can do whatever they want to do tbh, be it right or wrong. As long as it doesnt effect me and my family in any way.

I'm going on a trip soon by plane I hope I'll come back *gulp* alive.
 
andy said:
havent really paid allot of attention to any of these "wars" but i asume oil is still a major part of them

so random question here

where does china get oil from ? they must be almostneeding as much as the US these days

how come they dont need to start pointless wars so they can get more of it ?


anyone think theyre up to no good , its always the quiet ones isnt it :p

Last I heard, China's need for oil was growing about 7x faster than the USA's. If the US is in it for the oil (it's at least one of the reasons...) then it's more of a preemptive policy. Over 80% of the worlds oil reserves sit under the Middle East. Maybe China should be getting involved......maybe they will.
 
Zip said:
Syria is one.
And all the Islamic Militant groups floating around the world

There are others but i forget(Possably Saudi Arabia but im not too sure)

Which ones? The ones that have been happily killing shia muslims?
 
andy said:
havent really paid allot of attention to any of these "wars" but i asume oil is still a major part of them

so random question here

where does china get oil from ? they must be almostneeding as much as the US these days

how come they dont need to start pointless wars so they can get more of it ?


anyone think theyre up to no good , its always the quiet ones isnt it :p

I fail to see how it could be about oil. Just doesn't add up.

The worlds biggest oil reserve is in Saudi Arabia, and we appear to have no problems with them. The worlds second biggest is in Canada, but it is not as easy to get, being what is called non-conventional oil. Though Iran does have the worlds second biggest reserve of conventional oil, Kuwait and the UAE have almost as much, yet they are appear to be our friends. Pretty sure it would be easier to invade them over Iran too.

From what I can see, for Iran at least, it seems to simply be down to the fact that the US really, really don't want them to have a nuke. Probably because the chances are they will use it against Israel or Iraq.

As for my reply to the OP. Honestly I think that unless Iran back down we will see some kind of military intervention from the US.
 
If the US attack IRAN this will be bad news. Don't forget Russia sits right next to IRAN and supply them with advanced arms.

Probability of the US attacking IRAN is high, this attack will not be like IRAQ (where no one did anything about it).

Going on the likely probability of this event happening this could then lead to war throughout the middle east and Asia. Then basically we will have world war 3 on our hands. As things will probably spiral out of control.

Shorty after the economy will more then likely collapse, as its already very fragile as it is. Don't forget the US is over 8 trillion in debt!

I wouldn't be surprised if we get the first bombs to hit the US since Pearl Habour.

These will be dark days indeed.

Chris
 
Bush is a War-mongerer. He just wants to get in there and stir things up! God help us all if Iran is attacked as then we will have a big war on our hands! All the Islamic countries will join forces. There will be more terrorist attacks etc etc. Bush should be put on the front-line.
 
dbmzk1 said:
I fail to see how it could be about oil. Just doesn't add up.

The worlds biggest oil reserve is in Saudi Arabia, and we appear to have no problems with them. The worlds second biggest is in Canada, but it is not as easy to get, being what is called non-conventional oil. Though Iran does have the worlds second biggest reserve of conventional oil, Kuwait and the UAE have almost as much, yet they are appear to be our friends. Pretty sure it would be easier to invade them over Iran too.
Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are no more democratic than Iraq was, it is just that their rulers support the US. The UAE isn't that different although they are making real efforts to open up to the outside world and ensure prosperity "after oil".

Saudi Arabia is in a state of enormous internal (fundamentalist Islamic) tension - 15 out of 19 of the people who flew planes into buildings on September 11th 2001 came from Saudi Arabia; Osama bin Laden is Saudi.

At the time of the invasion of Iraq, the Americans seemed to believe that within months, Iraq would have settled down, the people would be so overjoyed to be rid of Saddam Hussein that they would be enjoying Starbucks & Big Macs. Having ensured a secure supply of oil, the USA could then set about sorting out Saudi Arabia.

The concern for America is to be able to control the extraction and price of oil and making 100% sure that they have "preferred customer" status.


dbmzk1 said:
From what I can see, for Iran at least, it seems to simply be down to the fact that the US really, really don't want them to have a nuke. Probably because the chances are [the Iranians] will use it against Israel or Iraq.
Not for a little while they wont, even the Americans admit that Iran will not have viable, deliverable nuclear weapons for five to ten years.


dbmzk1 said:
As for my reply to the OP. Honestly I think that unless Iran back down we will see some kind of military intervention from the US.
I think that the only kind of "backing down" that will be acceptable to the Americans will be "regime change" - they want a tame, corrupt, pro-American puppet in Iran again.
 
Iran has rejected claims by Russian officials that it has failed to meet payments for work on the Bushehr nuclear plant in southern Iran.
. . .
Under the Bushehr deal, Russia would have started the fuel shipments by March, launched the plant in September and begun to generate electricity by November.
. . .
BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says it would be uncomfortable for the Russians if they began to supply nuclear fuel to Tehran before the International Atomic Energy Agency had given the country's nuclear programme a clean bill of health. He says many analysts see the reports that Tehran is falling behind on its payments as a pretext to delay the delivery. BBC Link
It doesn't look as though Russia is going to back Iran on this one.

I wonder what China will do at the UN?
 
Chris1983 said:
If the US attack IRAN this will be bad news. Don't forget Russia sits right next to IRAN and supply them with advanced arms.
Chris

While i agree with your post am not sure about calling Russian weapons and technology "advanced" (when comparedto that of the 800-pound war gorilla - USA) though.....things seem to have gone down since the cold war era for them.
 
TC1 said:
Bush is a War-mongerer. He just wants to get in there and stir things up! God help us all if Iran is attacked as then we will have a big war on our hands! All the Islamic countries will join forces. There will be more terrorist attacks etc etc. Bush should be put on the front-line.

Yeah, all join forces.

Just like they didn't in 2003.
 
Visage said:
If i recall correctly it was the reasoning behind deplying Patriot ABM batteries....which subsequently turned out to be nearly useless....


Erm thats because they were not ABM's they were normal anti-aircraft missiles pressed into service in an anti-missile role.

Those pesky facts again....
 
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