Windows 10 price

Windows (a non ad-supported 'with Bing' or whatever version) is not going to be free forever. It will be a free upgrade because they are desperate to get people off of Windows 7, but expect to see it form part of the Office 365 lineup.

Windows and Office (365) is the Microsoft cash cow. They lost huge amounts on Surface, Windows Phone, Xbox etc. They can't really afford to give up OS licensing income.
 
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Windows and Office (365) is the Microsoft cash cow. They lost huge amounts on Surface, Windows Phone, Xbox etc. They can't really afford to give up OS licensing income.

Very little of Windows income is generated by people going out and buying it, almost all of it comes from OEM.
 
No such thing as a free lunch.
It will most likely start as free to all for a year or so with the aim of getting all PCs updated to the same OS/platform. Once everyone is on board, they can drop support for older platforms and become a subscription platform. MS can't make money from cloud-based word processing and spreadsheet services, besides there are free alternatives that are just as good.

Want to continue using Windows? Pay £5 per month. Most people will set up direct debits and have no problem with paying what is a small amount for most people. With millions of people using Windows, there is a nice tidy sum lining MS execs pockets. Look at how popular Netflix has become - I know many people who let their subscription roll every month yet hardly watch anything, if anything at all most months. People will be more than happy to pay a fiver a month for Windows, even if their PC time is minimal.
 
Look at the Office 365 it has been a HUGE success for Microsoft.
Microsoft are certainly going to follow suit and offer Windows along with Office for a subscription fee. The initial OS will ALWAYS be free to offer a platform to get new users and to avoid piracy. They will fund that with advertisement revenue like Google.

Initially to offer a paid for subscription service to get Office desktop and other services such as more storage and all integrated services that Microsoft do and will provide.
Next this will link this to business, so you can use home and office together, blurring and eventually removing the boundaries between them (which they are already doing with Enterprise Mobility Services to provide Encryption, AV and managed support).
After they will breadcrumb people with their overlapping services and by doing decrease customer attrition through lock in and seeing this other services will start to lock in customers even more.

Surface is going to make Microsoft A LOT of money starting THIS YEAR with Surface 3, it is products like this and X-Box as well as Windows phone which have always been tools used to bring customers in.
Microsoft have been preparing for this year for a long time and they are going to see a huge leap over come Windows 10.

I just wonder how long it is before you can get a Microsoft lifetime mortgage.
 
No such thing as a free lunch.
It will most likely start as free to all for a year or so with the aim of getting all PCs updated to the same OS/platform. Once everyone is on board, they can drop support for older platforms and become a subscription platform. MS can't make money from cloud-based word processing and spreadsheet services, besides there are free alternatives that are just as good.

Want to continue using Windows? Pay £5 per month. Most people will set up direct debits and have no problem with paying what is a small amount for most people. With millions of people using Windows, there is a nice tidy sum lining MS execs pockets. Look at how popular Netflix has become - I know many people who let their subscription roll every month yet hardly watch anything, if anything at all most months. People will be more than happy to pay a fiver a month for Windows, even if their PC time is minimal.

that'll be in about 2 or 3 years

but MS have said “once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge.”
 
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I'm surprised to read Office 365 is a commercial success. Do people really pay for spreadsheet or word processors in this day and age when free crossplatform office packages are readily available...
 
Yes because Office 365 provides Exchange for email, calendaring, contact management etc. and a bunch of desktop and mobile applications that tie into it very nicely.

If you do any sort of collaboration with other organisations and your staff aren't all particularly great computer users then Office is cheaper than training and dealing with problems.
 
I'm surprised to read Office 365 is a commercial success. Do people really pay for spreadsheet or word processors in this day and age when free crossplatform office packages are readily available...

You should read what office 365 gives you if you think its just a spreadsheet and a word processor.

For example you've forgot the mention you get 1TB of cloud storage. That alone makes the subscription very attractive.
 
so everyone upgrades before they introduce "windows live" (xbox gold)

but i don't get why they are saying !Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year! And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. "
 
No such thing as a free lunch.
It will most likely start as free to all for a year or so with the aim of getting all PCs updated to the same OS/platform. Once everyone is on board, they can drop support for older platforms and become a subscription platform. MS can't make money from cloud-based word processing and spreadsheet services, besides there are free alternatives that are just as good.

You've got that the wrong way around. Windows is currently the declining market for Microsoft (maybe due to the market waiting for Windows 10?). Azure, Office 365, Xbox and Surface are Microsoft's cashcows now. Just look at their 2015 Q3 highlights - https://www.microsoft.com/Investor/...s/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY15/Q3/default.aspx

Devices and Consumer revenue grew 8% (up 11% in constant currency) to $9.0 billion, with the following business highlights:

· Office 365 Consumer subscribers increased to over 12.4 million, up 35% sequentially
· Windows OEM Pro revenue declined 19%, as Pro mix returned to pre-Windows XP end-of-support levels and the business PC market declined
· Windows OEM non-Pro revenue declined 26%, primarily due to channel inventory drawdown and ongoing mix shift to opening price point devices
· Search advertising revenue grew 21% (up 24% in constant currency), with Bing U.S. market share at 20.1%, up 150 basis points over prior year
· Xbox Live usage grew over 30%, driven by increased users and deeper user engagement
· Surface revenue of $713 million, up 44% (up 53% in constant currency) driven by Surface Pro 3
· Phone Hardware revenue of $1.4 billion, with 8.6 million Lumia units sold

Commercial revenue grew 5% (up 7% in constant currency) to $12.8 billion, with the following business highlights:

· Commercial cloud revenue grew 106% (up 111% in constant currency) driven by Office 365, Azure and Dynamics CRM Online, and is now on an annualized revenue run rate of $6.3 billion
· Server products and services revenue grew 12% (up 16% in constant currency), with premium versions of Windows Server, System Center Server and SQL Server together growing 25%
· Office Commercial products and services revenue declined 2% (up 1% in constant currency); transactional revenue was impacted by the continued transition to Office 365 and declines in business PC sales following the XP refresh cycle
· Windows volume licensing revenue declined 2% (up 1% in constant currency), with transactional revenue declining following the XP refresh cycle partially offset by annuity revenue growth
 
I'm surprised to read Office 365 is a commercial success. Do people really pay for spreadsheet or word processors in this day and age when free crossplatform office packages are readily available...

For £7.99 a month, I get unlimited storage with onedrive, a reasonably generous skype minutes allowance and the office suite to boot. Oh. That's also for 5pcs and 5 mobile devices.

Am I really dumb for paying that price now?
 
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About this so called free upgrade. I take it the upgrade we get will only be valid on the computer we use it on and if we move over
to a completely new computer, the upgrade we got will be useless and so we will need to buy a Windows 10 license to use it on
our new computer since the upgrade we got and the installation is only for that device we used it on?
 
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Any idea what would happen if we upgraded for free but decided we didn't like it and wanted to revert back to 8.1?
 
What is it, as this doesn't exist.
What do you mean by not work.
Where did you get it from, what is it called.

There's really only two versions.
Pre installed on pre built pcs that are technically tied to motherboard but can be reused.
OEM which can be changed from one computer to another as much as you want.


There are a few others like MSDN but you shouldn't have one off them.

FYI... the two versions you mentioned are the same ;)

Pre-intalled = OEM ;)

You mean OEM vs Retail.

OEM is *supposedly* tied to the motherboard (although you can still re-license if you have had a failure and replace the motherboard etc or simply use the phone system and tell them it's only installed on one PC :p)
Retail is the one you can officially take with you.
 
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