Windows 7 colour space.

.:SAmSuNG:. · 7 Sep 2010 at 21:52

So i have a U2410 that iv calibrated with a spyder3 express but am I right in thinking that the spyder is not really meant for wide gamut screens? I have no idea how to go about setting the windows to show the full colours my screen is capable of.

These are my settings:

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

PCM2 · 7 Sep 2010 at 22:39

What makes you think the S3E doesn't handle the wide colour gamut of the U2410? I advise switching between sRGB mode and 'standard' mode (or whatever mode you calibrated under) and having a look and seeing how colours (in particular, reds and greens) look. You can easily tell if it's using the standard gamut by looking at the head of the FireFox logo if you look at it - it will appear pretty red under wide-gamut and more orange under standard gamut. You could also try looking at these things with the ICC profile both enabled and disabled. And the monitor will certainly be using the wide gamut in games as the ICC profile will be ignored.

This is very topical as I'm reviewing the U2410 at the moment.

.:SAmSuNG:. · 8 Sep 2010 at 08:11

How do I enable/disable the ICC profile? I will try the firefox test tonight and report my findings.
Cheers.

PCM2 · 8 Sep 2010 at 09:15

On the first screenshot - if you untick the box that says "Use my settings for this device" it will revert to defaults and disable any ICC profiles like the ones created by the Spyder.

Hodders · 8 Sep 2010 at 10:13

I have set mine up as follows:

1) Get the latest Spyder software as the older version left a horrible cast.
2) Set the monitor mode to "Standard"
3) Run the calibration and install the created profile
4) Notice that your desktop/non colour managed software looks very saturated
5) Notice that all images in colour managed apps (photoshop/lightroom (set to prophoto RGB) in my case) look lovely.

As far as I know, win7 desktop is not colour managed (and can't be) so your monitor will only properly use the colour profile in CM applications.

.:SAmSuNG:. · 8 Sep 2010 at 10:45

What's the benefits of ProPhotoRGB? Also if I shoot in RAW am I right in thinking like WB if its set to either RGB or sRGB in the camera it can be changed in photoshop or lightroom after without any loss of colours?

Example: photo shot in sRGB RAW then imported to PS and changed to RGB would this be the same as shooting in RGB on the camera?

PCM2 · 8 Sep 2010 at 10:47

It definitely changes the desktop on Windows 7 - but it doesn't manage it correctly by restricting everything to sRGB. Most desktop icons and wallpaper etc. are created with the sRGB colour space and the U2410 will indeed extend the gamut, even if this wasn't originally intended by the artist. The sad thing is a lot of these artists would prefer to work with broader gamuts but are stuck to the lowest common denominator.

.:SAmSuNG:. · 8 Sep 2010 at 11:00

Iv just read up on prophotoRGB so no need to rerply to that. PCM when do you think u will be done with ur U2410?

PCM2 · 8 Sep 2010 at 11:07

Done with the review? We've only just got this one (A01 revision) so probably a couple of weeks from now at the latest. It won't really be focussing too much on absolute colour accuracy. I think TFT Central does a fantastic and frankly unbeatable job in that department. I will be looking at the monitor from an entertainment perspective - what the experience is like on games and movies as well as just the general desktop. We will draw the comparison between the U2410 and other monitors we review, but also a Samsung XL24 and high-end CRT for reference.

mhk1058 · 29 Oct 2010 at 11:35

.:SAmSuNG:. said:
Iv just read up on prophotoRGB so no need to rerply to that. PCM when do you think u will be done with ur U2410?

Not sure if you read this far in your research but it is always worth having your camera on AdobeRGB if you want max info. If shooting RAW, everything is captured and depending on the camera this will usually be beyond AdobeRGB anyway. I always use prophoto 16 bit in photoshop (lightrooms native space which is what I use mostly) That way you have as much data out of the camera as possible. Whether you can actually see it is another thing :rolleyes:

Capture in sRGB and you've clipped the colours permanently. You can drop back to sRGB for the web etc later but you can't increase them from an sRGB image.

Have my eyes on U2410 myself

andy91 · 3 Jan 2011 at 19:14

Hodders said:
I have set mine up as follows:

As far as I know, win7 desktop is not colour managed (and can't be) so your monitor will only properly use the colour profile in CM applications.

Is this the same for non-wide gamut screens? As in the monitor will only use the colour profile in CM applications?