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Windows 7 Graphics Performance Preview

MR.B said:
Yeah it has... and guess what my 4.15GHz i7 gets? 7.6! still not full marks! Pretty crazy.

My tripple channel DDR3 RAM only gets 5.5 even though it completely crushes my Q9450 DDR2 system in bandwidth.

GTX 280 gets 7.9 for Aero performance, and 6.0 for gaming performance. Which is the same as above 8800GTX... go figure. Maybe it's testing it in 2D clocks and not 3D.

WD VelociRaptor gets 5.9.

I'd like to see what my SSD gets as SSD performance is meant to have improved a lot, but i've got my Vista install on it.
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Which version of w7 are you running? I'm on build 6801, dunno if they've changed the WEI formula between this and the newer versions.
Funny about the RAM, with my 8GB DDR2 @ 1000MHz I get a 6.1:confused:
Also, I dunno which SSD you have but I get a 6.6 with my OCZ Core V1 64GB. I'm not sure what it goes by for that: if it's just disk transfer rate or if they factor in your additional drives/amount of free space etc.

And as for the idea that Aero needs lower graphics power so you get higher scores with that thon gaming graphics, well I installed 7 on my old laptop with integrated graphics (DirectX 9). I've since sold it on, and can't remember the precise scores, but I know I got a 2.2 for Aero but something higher for gaming, which confused me somewhat. Don't know if it's to do with the DX version.

Oh, and it specifically says on the WEI page "3D business and gaming graphics performance" - 3D, not 2D, so I don't know about the weird gaming graphics scores.
 
miniyazz said:
Which version of w7 are you running? I'm on build 6801, dunno if they've changed the WEI formula between this and the newer versions.
Funny about the RAM, with my 8GB DDR2 @ 1000MHz I get a 6.1:confused:
Also, I dunno which SSD you have but I get a 6.6 with my OCZ Core V1 64GB. I'm not sure what it goes by for that: if it's just disk transfer rate or if they factor in your additional drives/amount of free space etc.

And as for the idea that Aero needs lower graphics power so you get higher scores with that thon gaming graphics, well I installed 7 on my old laptop with integrated graphics (DirectX 9). I've since sold it on, and can't remember the precise scores, but I know I got a 2.2 for Aero but something higher for gaming, which confused me somewhat. Don't know if it's to do with the DX version.

Oh, and it specifically says on the WEI page "3D business and gaming graphics performance" - 3D, not 2D, so I don't know about the weird gaming graphics scores.
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How comes you haven't updated to buld 7000? I cant understand the RAM score either, i used to get 5.9 on Vista with 8GB DDR2 1066MHz. And this tripple channel DDR3 1600MHz has about 3x as much bandwidth! I know it's working properly from benching it.

I have a OCZ 60GB Core V2, so not much difference to you, should get around 7.0 i'd expect then.
As for graphics, being as cards run on 2D clocks when on the desktop to save power/heat, Win7 might be testing it on the 2D clocks, which are a lot lower than the 3D clocks - less than half the speed on a 280. Cards switch to 3D clocks when running a game full screen. If you was to run a game in Windowed mode it would use the 2D clocks.
 
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Apart from needing more memory there is nothing wrong with Vista. I do all my software development under Vista and I have yet to see it crash on my laptop! Vista is now a mature OS and competes well with XP in the stability. I certainly wouldn't hesitate in using Vista in a 24/7 environment.

Remember most OS crashes are down to driver, hardware, overclocking issues.

I don't have time to play with Windows 7 but it looks like it is shaping up well.
 
bledd. said:
true story

and 'it technicians' telling customers that 'vista is crap, and slow'
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The only legitimate concern from my point of view is the lack of hardware accelerated audio, which was a stupid and terrible decision for gamers. Besides that i'm very very happy with Vista.

Most people are looking at this issue in a completely wrong way. At least 90% of the sales of Windows is through OEM installs, most users would never go out and upgrade, so frankly there doesn't even need to be much new for them to release a new version, seeing as the cost of the laptops that it will be sold on won't change anyway. It seems like most people are essentially blind to this fact, instead of embracing the fact that Vista inevitably moves performance and technology on, with no extra cost the the average consumer.
 
Steves_pc said:
Have to say i'm finding 7 a bit snappier than Vista (Only 2Gb ram mind)
and kinda liking it so far, some of the changes are subtle and others
just removing the niggles that were in vista.

Still dont think much of Vista, main problem with it is well
say i've got a greatl performing engine - with a sporty body it goes like stink
now lets put say a volvo body on it, Hmm bit slow eh? thats how i find vista
yes looks ok, stable enough but needs more horse power to get it moving
and that bugs me, it's bad enough we need newer hardware for the games half the time let alone having to do it for the os.

Anyway I hope they do get it right this time.
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Vista is only slow if your computer ain't up to it, and you really did know that before purchasing it. Most laptopts now have at least 3GB of RAM and even with the painfully slow 5400RPM drives that makes for quite a snappy system, more so than had the same laptop been using XP.
 
Talrinys said:
The only legitimate concern from my point of view is the lack of hardware accelerated audio, which was a stupid and terrible decision for gamers. Besides that i'm very very happy with Vista.
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:confused: Vista does have hardware audio acceleration. MS removed the DirectSound 3D Hardware extension API in Vista. It was for a good reason overall if you read into it. But Creative and Asus have had there soundcards working in Vista with hardware acceleration for ages, it just needed some drastic changes to the drivers.
 
Anyone else found battlefield 2 takes way longer to load than on vista. maybe its a ram issue, with 7 only using 3gb of my 4gb, and according to task manager theres only 800mb of ram available for other applications, the rest is reserved for 7, as apposed to 3gb available for other apps in vista 64...

Everything else is major quick.

Xfire doesnt work, you get a white screen where you normally see what servers people are on.
 
gareth170 said:
The Windows 7 build 7000 leak and Microsoft's reaction

does this mean the public beta won't be released on 5th?
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Hmm, id have to wonder how internally they feel about the leak as opposed to how theyre supposed to react. Windows 7 has got a lot of people talking and there a lot of positive comments out there, if anything the leak and word of mouth has got people talking in a good way and i can bet theyre thrilled with that, after the pr nightmare of vista this seems to be swinging the pendulem in the opposite direction. I doubt its of any real concern to them, but officially they have to be seen to be "doing something about it".

Realistically there's bugger all they can do about it, delaying a release of a beta would be pointless as theres obviously other avenues to explore to get it.
 
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RizlaKing said:
Oh great nice one leakers and i was really hoping to download it tomorrow and have a play looks like that won't be happening now :(.
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Just get the build 7000/Beta 1 ISO from a torrent site! theres no difference than downloading from MS.

@ Gerard, there was reports MS leaked it themselfs. The timing was perfect and everything, and aswell as with the points you make, it makes sense if they did.
 
no need to go to torrent. its on webites and uploading sites (file hosting)

but im not saying download it illegal . hehe.
 
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MR.B said:
How comes you haven't updated to buld 7000? I cant understand the RAM score either, i used to get 5.9 on Vista with 8GB DDR2 1066MHz. And this tripple channel DDR3 1600MHz has about 3x as much bandwidth! I know it's working properly from benching it.

I have a OCZ 60GB Core V2, so not much difference to you, should get around 7.0 i'd expect then.
As for graphics, being as cards run on 2D clocks when on the desktop to save power/heat, Win7 might be testing it on the 2D clocks, which are a lot lower than the 3D clocks - less than half the speed on a 280. Cards switch to 3D clocks when running a game full screen. If you was to run a game in Windowed mode it would use the 2D clocks.
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Just haven't gotten round to updating, I have my computer set up nicely with 6801. Having said that, I get a new laptop tomorrow :D and will install 7000 on that. If I'm sufficiently impressed I'll update my desktop, otherwise i'll wait until the real thing comes out.
Interesting about the clocks. I suppose you could simulate 3D mode for the WEI by upping the 2D clocks in rivatuner?

Edit: Taking a look at getting 7000 now, it only seems to be in 32-bit. No 64-bit yet?
 
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I was waiting for the official release as i was assuming there would be an official 64 bit beta released at the same time not interested in 32 bit.
 
gareth170 said:
theres only the leaked 7000 32bit. microsoft isn't releaseing the public beta tomorrow. so no 64bit.
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That sucks somewhat. Well lots lol. However, since my laptop will only have 4GB RAM anyway, and not much graphics, I should get 3.5GB or so useable RAM; worth installing 32-bit 7000 over 64-bit 6801 I feel!

Any word on when Microsoft will now be releasing the official beta?
Anyway, isn't it fairly counterproductive to delay that? It'll just make more people d/l the torrent instead of the official thing (assuming it's available to Joe Public), and sooner or later the 64-bit will get leaked as well anyway.
 
If you don't have a key then it will need to be reinstalled every 30 days.
Appears that all are free to try it, it isn't 'warez' as such.

I am hoping that like vista you will be able to buy the beta and get a legit key for a few dollars.

My experiences of it so far are positive.
I have left things as default as much as possible to allow the new features to grow on me or p me off whichever.

First thing you notice is how much faster it feels.
Same sort of instant responce you get from a clean install of XP with just essential drivers loaded.

UAC seems to have much more tolerable settings by default.
I've left UAC on default settings and am finding it a good balance between useability and security.
In vista i find UAC overbearing and usually turn it off.

Security center is a lot less 'in your face'.
Still informes you about problems but is a lot more polite about it.

No driver issues so far but i haven't tried anything old or rare.

NV drivers installed OK and SLI/PhysX enabled fine.
PhysX options are there and so is the PhysX CP icon.
Used the latest non beta ones from NV site. 180.48

Microsoft drivers were installed by the OS but they don't have SLI and i suspect not a lot of 3D acceleration in them.
Would be fine for a non gaming PC though.

My XiFi was identified as a high definition audio device and worked with the MS drivers installed by the OS.
Sounded like onboard though so i installed the Creative drivers for it.

Used the disc which came with the XiFi and it appeared to install everthing for the souncard OK but it hadn't.
The audio driver was still high definition audio.

I re ran the setup from the CD but set it to vista compatabiliy mode first and the XiFi drivers then installed and all was fine.

Early days yet more apps to install and things to try but so far all is looking good.

Games run as fast if not faster than they do in XP which is a big + and of couse it has DX11 and i'm sure there is a million titles just about to be released that require it :)

Standby and hibernation are working well i don't normally enable hibernation but it was on by default so i left it.

One slight niggle is that the classic menu options have disappeared.
There probably hidden somewhere.
I am a bit of a dinosaur in that regard and do prefer the classic options but am getting used to the new menus.

There are a lot of customisations possible with the start menu and i'm sure eveyone will get it setup just how they want it.
I'm still playing getting them just right.

New tasbar options are pretty cool as well.
 
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Cool, I just sold my unused Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP/1 for £85 inc so now hoping to get a Beta of this new Windows 7. I totally missed out on the beginning of Vista with the betas and whatnot and have still not actually used it on one of my personal machines! :o

Having watched a heap of Windows 7 videos on You-Tube I think I am already hooked, love the new task bar and that Aero Peak feature, here's hoping though that games and applications actually run faster/better than Windows XP Pro! :p
 
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