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Windows 7 to use Dx10.1 API

layte said:
It will not be just the compositing engine that is accelerated in W7. Just like Apple are doing with 10.6, Microsoft are looking into using the GPU for more than just fancy effects. Now if that engine requires DX10.1......
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It won't. Think about it.
 
The Asgard said:
It won't. Think about it.
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Why not? Because NV don't have any DX10.1 hardware on the market? Certainly no love lost between those two. MS would love to put the boot into CUDA and NV constantly trying to mess around with the DX spec. Everyone else has capable hardware available, Intel stuff will probably be another bodge job with funny drivers but it will just about work. We all know how successful individual vendors are when going up against something built into the Windows OS itself.
 
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layte said:
Why not? Because NV don't have any DX10.1 hardware on the market? Certainly no love lost between those two. MS would love to put the boot into CUDA and NV constantly trying to mess around with the DX spec. Everyone else has capable hardware available, Intel stuff will probably be another bodge job with funny drivers but it will just about work. We all know how successful individual vendors are when going up against something built into the Windows OS itself.
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Think about the install base.
 
The Asgard said:
Think about the install base.
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Which is vastly Intel and as I said due to the funny way their drivers work they could most likely bodge together 10.1 support for the current 10 supporting chips. (Also MS would be willing to give them a lot more slack when it comes to the standard)
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft simply told Nvidia to go suck on something, y'know, after that whole ordeal with the DirectX 10 specification, and the large(r than other vendors) amount of driver crashes stemming from their drivers in Vista and the (devil's advocate here) reasonably good Linux support. Nvidia certainly hasn't been doing Microsoft any favours as of late. And I'm just sure that Microsoft loves the fact that Nvidia decided to completely ignore their latest API revision.
 
I don't think MS care what nvidia wants and will do what they want to do so it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that w7 is 10.1. Nvidia has been annoying a lot of companys and sooner or later that has to come back and bite them. We are talking about an os not being released for over a year i nvidia can't get their act together in that time do they really deserve any consideration from anyone i don't think so and i would say MS feel the same. Time for nvidia to start implementing things rather then using bully tactics to have things rmoved they can't be bothered to implement the world doesn't revolve around any one hardware company and certainly not nvidia.
 
That said, it's more than like that it just supports DX10.1, and that it'll still have a slightly less efficient DX9 implementation. For people with high-end GPUs I wouldn't worry, but it'll help take the strain off of lower end GPUs with DX10.1 support in the case that the user has a lot of windows open (particularly for people using S3 Chrome 400 series cards I'd presume), particularly as, from what I've seen in reviews, the new user interface adds extra pretty effects for changing between windows and such.
 
layte said:
Which is vastly Intel and as I said due to the funny way their drivers work they could most likely bodge together 10.1 support for the current 10 supporting chips. (Also MS would be willing to give them a lot more slack when it comes to the standard)
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Basically they won't do anything that will hurt upgrade/new sales. Doing so would be committing commercial sucide.
 
Most of their money comes from OEM sales. A nice cheap Intel chipset and a designed for W7 sticker is all it needs. Microsoft are not going to bend over backwards for Nvidia, they almost didn't for Intel with Aero support last time around and they had far more leverage.
 
RizlaKing said:
I don't think MS care what nvidia wants and will do what they want to do so it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that w7 is 10.1. Nvidia has been annoying a lot of companys and sooner or later that has to come back and bite them. We are talking about an os not being released for over a year i nvidia can't get their act together in that time do they really deserve any consideration from anyone i don't think so and i would say MS feel the same. Time for nvidia to start implementing things rather then using bully tactics to have things rmoved they can't be bothered to implement the world doesn't revolve around any one hardware company and certainly not nvidia.
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Its due out next June isn't it. :confused:
 
psychas said:
no point of upgrading will be full of bugs when it first out
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lol...

And that's where you get a load of people bashing 7 for being rubish, slow, buggy, unstable and so on, while saying how wonderful and fast vista is. :rolleyes:

It happened when XP came out, the trolls came from under their bridges to slate it as much as they could then they do the same to vista.

That Windows Mojave shows that people dislike vista on nothing more than an asociated basis because of how it's been slated by trolls who love to complain.
 
Last i heard windows 7 was slated for release late q4 2009 but i admit i might have missed some latest news on it so if anyone has a more recent official date i would like to hear it as well :).
 
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