Windows 8. Anyone just using the built in Defender.

I’m using Kasperky Internet Security 2013 which I like has I've used Kasperky Internet Security products for many years

but I may try Windows Defender when my Kasperky Internet Security 2013 license ends.
 
I juts read this. It suggests that Defender isn't all that great at its job.

Windows 8, with Windows Defender running, was infected by 61 of the 385 most popular malware samples in a controlled test carried out by leading virus researchers over the past week,” the company said in a statement
Claims one reviewer.

maybe we are all very careful what we do online but there is the suggestion that something much better is needed to keep malware out of our computers - sadly.
 
I juts read this. It suggests that Defender isn't all that great at its job.

Claims one reviewer.

maybe we are all very careful what we do online but there is the suggestion that something much better is needed to keep malware out of our computers - sadly.

that info is only really usefull if we knew how other products compared in the same test.
 
been using mse for years and now defender in win 8
and every so often I check with other programs just as a fail safe and they never find anything.
so im more than happy to use defender with the firewalls in windows n router
don't see the need to pay for anything else as it just money down the drain
 
unless your doing something you shouldn't be the built in one works fine, if you want a paid one then buy one, but not all paid ones are as good, some are some aren't as it all depends on what you do and where you go, what apps/ programs you use and how tidy and careful or unlucky you are.
 
Windows 8 sucks, so does defender.

As mentioned above, defender has failed in AV tests, so cannot gain certifcation as a legitimate anti-virus program. Think it detected less than 15% of threats.

But to be honest, I think that the os is so lame, that no one is targeting it right now :) as less then five percent of Windows users use it.
 
But to be honest, I think that the os is so lame, that no one is targeting it right now :) as less then five percent of Windows users use it.

A lot of exploits that target the Windows OS work on most modern versions of Windows, including XP, Vista 7 & 8.
 
Windows 8 sucks, so does defender.

As mentioned above, defender has failed in AV tests, so cannot gain certifcation as a legitimate anti-virus program. Think it detected less than 15% of threats.

But to be honest, I think that the os is so lame, that no one is targeting it right now :) as less then five percent of Windows users use it.

you may want to have a rethink, you got every thing wrong there.
its not even remotely as low as 15%
it can be classes as an av program. one, just one company has removed its certificate.
the test was even done before win8 was released, so not even the same version number.


Right, this is a perfect example of how people over react to a qualitative change (i.e. losing or gaining a certification) and practically ignore the much more meaningful quantitative information.

The vast majority of posters in this thread have jumped to the conclusion that MSE is suddenly no good.

Look at the table:

MSE Results Sep/Oct 2012

Link

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There is a 5% change in the sample detection rate of the "zero day/real world testing". For the rest of the results, MSE scores either in line or better than industry average.

Now, most of the recommendations MSE gets on here are that it's "good enough" and not many people argue with that assessment. If that was true before September, then does a small decrease in this particular test now make that untrue? Take into account MSE detection rates have never matched the top scorers for new malware.

I'm not telling people to continue using MSE if they don't want to - it's neither my business nor my problem. But for those who are switching away from the product based exclusively on the result of this test, let's be clear...

you are reacting to a 5% change in detection rate, in one part of one test, from one independent tester.
 
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