Windows 8 for gaming

Intuitive operating system Windows 8-fail.

Compatibility with computer parts--fail e.g Creative Titanium.

Desktop on Windows 8-fail e.g feels like an app.

It is not MS responsibility to make sure 3rd party products work its up to that manufacturer to do that as far as I am concerned, Creative have a horrid track record of supporting the latest OS.

I don't have a problem using Windows 8 it feels very easy to use, when in work it feels like taking a step back using Windows 7 now.

I don't see how you can think the desktop feels like an app if its because your missing the precious start menu then get one of the apps to give you that back.

Kimbie
 
"I don't see how you can think the desktop feels like an app if its because your missing the precious start menu then get one of the apps to give you that back.

Kimbie "


Reply.No, I don't miss the "precious" start menu, I miss having a decent desktop...and not the "app" version that feels plugged in underneath the Start screen.

"I don't have a problem using Windows 8 it feels very easy to use, when in work it feels like taking a step back using Windows 7 now."

Reply. No it feels like a dumbed down operating system, another layer of gunk over a workmanlike system like Windows 7 and the previous iterations, just so Microsoft can cash in on the tablet market.

It is not MS responsibility to make sure 3rd party products work its up to that manufacturer to do that as far as I am concerned, Creative have a horrid track record of supporting the latest OS.

I didn't state that it was Microsoft's problem, I stated it as a fail, regardless of who is responsible for driver support.
 
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Intuitive operating system Windows 8-fail.

Compatibility with computer parts--fail e.g Creative Titanium.

Desktop on Windows 8-fail e.g feels like an app.

So you are blaming driver issues on Win8,why not try asking Creative to get their axx in gear.


Btw still no issues for me in Win8 gaming and still happy I ditched Creative for my nice Asus Xonar DX card a year ago ,it just works ;) .


I didn't state that it was Microsoft's problem, I stated it as a fail, regardless of who is responsible for driver support.

Obviously Creative's fault,if other companies ie Asus etc can get their sound cards working fine in Win8 why can't Creative,we know the answer to that.

I disagree about desktop ,feels same to me as Win7 minus Start button which I don't need.
 
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Btw still no issues for me in Win8 gaming and still happy I ditched Creative for my nice Asus Xonar DX card a year ago ,it just works

Reply, some persons assume I am blaming Microsoft, not true 100%, but they are partially responsible, afterall they have keep releasiing operatings systems that gamers have to buy to enjoy the latest fidelity graphics, for example DX 10 and DX11. And no I do not want to game on a console (just in case).

You must have different hearing to me, but when I game in Battlefield 3, after purchasing both the DG and Dx from Asus, I found them tinny (gunfire and explosions) with my Roccat Kave headphones, and the directional positional vague and off, whereas my "Creative" cards have all been pretty spot on with both Battlefield 3 and Battlefield BC 2...The Asus cards did sound good for music, but gaming not as good.
 
Btw still no issues for me in Win8 gaming and still happy I ditched Creative for my nice Asus Xonar DX card a year ago ,it just works

Reply, some persons assume I am blaming Microsoft, not true 100%, but they are partially responsible, afterall they have keep releasiing operatings systems that gamers have to buy to enjoy the latest fidelity graphics, for example DX 10 and DX11. And no I do not want to game on a console (just in case).

You must have different hearing to me, but when I game in Battlefield 3, after purchasing both the DG and Dx from Asus, I found them tinny (gunfire and explosions) with my Roccat Kave headphones, and the directional positional vague and off, whereas my "Creative" cards have all been pretty spot on with both Battlefield 3 and Battlefield BC 2...The Asus cards did sound good for music, but gaming not as good.

Yep sound is subjective,however reviewers like myself think its great (taken from Overclock3d review)


Call of Duty 4

Currently my most played game and despite a lack of EAX I was intrigued to see how this would fair against the on-board sound I was currently using. It took some time to configure exactly how I liked the sound as when I first started playing the game I was appalled at the quality – I then realised my mistake (I hadn’t enabled the game setting in the Xonar Audio Control) but once rectified and I had it how I preferred, I was impressed with the clarity of the vocals and weapon sounds. I found myself testing out new weapons just to see what they sounded like on this card!


BF2 is an EAX 3.0 enabled game which sure enough, once the GX and game settings were chosen in the Xonar Audio Center, I could set the Audio functions to ‘Creative X-FI’(which gave me a giggle) and High settings (ultra is also available through config settings):



The EAX effects were clear and no crackling and popping could be heard which has been reported occasionally with Creative’s own X-FI based cards. Positional audio was sublime and no doubt would give the players a competitive edge in this game with a 7.1 card. I had played this game previously with an extreme music X-FI card and honestly cannot tell the difference between the two cards audio qualities. At a push, I would say the Xonar had the edge in terms of reverb effects such as those on Kubra Dam.

For the price Asus Xonar DX is hard to beat.



Reply, some persons assume I am blaming Microsoft, not true 100%, but they are partially responsible, afterall they have keep releasiing operatings systems that gamers have to buy to enjoy the latest fidelity graphics, for example DX 10 and DX11

Microsoft are not to blame even partially for Creative driver issues(well known now that Creative have driver issues for quite a few years ),nobody is forcing you to upgrade,besides Creative knew when Win8 was officially out,they have a responsibility to their customers .


Reminds me of Vista days when everybody blamed them(even partially) for driver issues,end of the day drivers are responsibility of the manufacturer in question,ie Nvidia for nvidia drivers,Creative for creative drivers,HP for HP drivers.
I give you an example Canon released new Canon Win8 x64 printer drivers within days of Win8 release for my printer,thats good customer support,shame I can't say same thing about Creative.
 
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Yep sound is subjective,however reviewers like myself think its great (taken from Overclock3d review)[

Again this is your point of view,like I have mine, because I have seen numerous reviews (from professionals) that give the OS (Windows 8) an average rating of around 3-4 stars out of five, gaming performance in Windows 8 invariably similar or identical to Windows 7.

Here was an amusing poll video from 3DGameman, a gentleman who has had numerous years as a reviewer and is well respected for his views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5FzNqCuyvA&feature=g-user-u

Windows 8.1 anyone :)?
 
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Yep sound is subjective,however reviewers like myself think its great (taken from Overclock3d review)[

Again this is your point of view,like I have mine, because I have seen numerous reviews (from professionals) that give the OS (Windows 8) an average rating of around 3-4 stars out of five, gaming performance in Windows 8 invariably similar or identical to Windows 7.

Here was an amusing poll video from 3DGameman, a gentleman who has had numerous years as a reviewer and is well respected for his views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5FzNqCuyvA&feature=g-user-u

Windows 8.1 anyone :)?

I actually like Win8 infact got it on three PCs,however getting back on topic it does not take away the fact Creative labs have crappy driver support ,so end of the day you should point your finger at them.


Btw I was probably reviewing hardware/software etc before he was born ;) yeah I'm old .
 
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No, I don't miss the "precious" start menu, I miss having a decent desktop...and not the "app" version that feels plugged in underneath the Start screen.

Why does it "feel" like that? Give some context.


Reply. No it feels like a dumbed down operating system, another layer of gunk over a workmanlike system like Windows 7 and the previous iterations, just so Microsoft can cash in on the tablet market.

No it's not. How is it "dumbed down"?

It's quite an improvement over Windows 7 for power users (this means the opposite of dumbed down) with a start screen instead of a start menu.



I didn't state that it was Microsoft's problem, I stated it as a fail, regardless of who is responsible for driver support.

"I don't like" isn't the same as "it's a fail".
 
BF3, GW2, Steam and whatever else I throw at Win 8 are just working.. no issue what so ever.. i7 920, amd 7950, asus xonar essence Stx

People bashing win 8 are in my very own opinion very small minded. Instead of saying they simple don't like whatever changes they claim it fails.. just wauw.
 
People bashing Windows 8, not allowed then? :)

I have stated e before, that I await improvements to Windows 8 before I revisit it. I had a similar experience (granted worse) when Vista came out. Windows 8 remains a sideshow to me, a gimmick like Aero was in Vista.

As far as my small limited mind can tell, it is a touchscreen os, with a Windows app that looks suspiciously like Windows 7 without the Start menu and neat gadgets.

Like any compllex bit of software, Windows 8 may present issues, or none at all, depending on the unique set-up an individual has depending on hardware and other numerous factors.

I am just amazed that people find having a point of view opposite to their own stemming from my own truthful experience with this new software as wrong. For example my sound card failed to work, so I should pull it out and get an Asus one because it is made by a company they do not like.I did address this issue. I got a Soundblaster Z card, because I had the upgrade itch, not because of Windows 8.

s a Windows user, the new OS feels more clautraphobic then ever, if I want games, well I should buy them from the Windows store...if I want friends well, I can sign into Windows live...This is where people will jump in with, "well you don't have to use those services". But this paragraph shows my impression of wonderful Windows 8..

Maybe they will get the right idea by Windows 9. Right now my games do not get on with Windows 8, others may have no issues.

Finally, if Windows 8 was to be embraced so wholeheartedly by the buying public, why would Microsoft offer it as cheaply as £14.99 an unprecendented move by one of the most profitable comanies in the world, unless they were also concerned by customers opinion and felt cheap offers was a guarantee that market share was maintained and their shareholders could then be informed of healthy sales figures, for shiny Windows 8.

P.s I await the quote bubbles etc.
 
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People bashing Windows 8, not allowed then? :)

I have stated e before, that I await improvements to Windows 8 before I revisit it. I had a similar experience (granted worse) when Vista came out. Windows 8 remains a sideshow to me, a gimmick like Aero was in Vista.

As far as my small limited mind can tell, it is a touchscreen os, with a Windows app that looks suspiciously like Windows 7 without the Start menu and neat gadgets.

Like any compllex bit of software, Windows 8 may present issues, or none at all, depending on the unique set-up an individual has depending on hardware and other numerous factors.

I am just amazed that people find having a point of view opposite to their own stemming from my own truthful experience with this new software as wrong. For example my sound card failed to work, so I should pull it out and get an Asus one because it is made by a company they do not like.I did address this issue. I got a Soundblaster Z card, because I had the upgrade itch, not because of Windows 8.

s a Windows user, the new OS feels more clautraphobic then ever, if I want games, well I should buy them from the Windows store...if I want friends well, I can sign into Windows live...This is where people will jump in with, "well you don't have to use those services". But this paragraph shows my impression of wonderful Windows 8..

Maybe they will get the right idea by Windows 9. Right now my games do not get on with Windows 8, others may have no issues.

Finally, if Windows 8 was to be embraced so wholeheartedly by the buying public, why would Microsoft offer it as cheaply as £14.99 an unprecendented move by one of the most profitable comanies in the world, unless they were also concerned by customers opinion and felt cheap offers was a guarantee that market share was maintained and their shareholders could then be informed of healthy sales figures, for shiny Windows 8.

P.s I await the quote bubbles etc.

Crappy creative sound drivers as usual,I keep saying it,as I stated drivers are the responsibility of the manufacturer in question,I AVOID all companies that have poor customer support ie drivers,if they can't be bothered to get drivers out why should I buy their products.

I'll say added some more games to my Win8 and ALL still working great,ie Planetside 2,Dos Box games like XCOM Apocalypse,my list of working games keeps getting bigger :) even with overclocked CPU and video card.


Maybe they will get the right idea by Windows 9. Right now my games do not get on with Windows 8, others may have no issues.


That phrase comes around everytime Microsoft release a new OS,seen it with XP,Vista,Win7 and obviously here ie Win8 and you can bet some be people will be moaning about Win9,10,11 etc,,things don't change,its not rocket science to game in Win8,its only been out a month give it time,crappy companies like Creative will eventually get drivers out for Win8 probably around Win9 release date ;),end of the day you went with Creative so what goes around comes around.
 
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Windows 8 works fine with games. The new UI is a tack on, Ive not seen any reason why it has to be used or prevents use of old software. Biggest problem is install sequences that cant handle a different DX version or whatever


Im wondering about games that might now work on win8 running on ARM cpu. Saw people discussing translating utility code over to run as an app. Kinda pointless as Intel blows ARM out of the water for brute force ?
 
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