Windows - Why is it so bad?
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Or it could be a PEBKAC error.
Both of mine running great, 10/10 in Reliability History with zero crashes, stability, speed are fine.
I've a Linux PC to and again no issues, end of the day I can use virtually any OS and get it working great.
One of the problems with Windows 10 as far as issues go is that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to them - my Windows 10 tablet ran absolutely fine until 1607 and now explorer is **** slow and file copies have gone from a few MByte/s to around 300Kbyte/s. I've 2 VM installs cloned off the same original version and one of those has no end of issues (one drive stuff especially has started crashing out) while the other has mostly run ok and I've not done anything particularly different with them and even after running a repair the same issue slowly comes back on that particular install :S
Could be hardware issue ie fault or something.
As to file transfer tried TeraCopy?..Free btw.
I have installed windows 10 a few days ago just for the directx12 support and I hate it. So much so, I have got it like win7 as much as I can, by getting the start menu back, turning off the auto updates, got the window border colors back including firefox ect, but I still dont think much of it. but at least its running everything I need.
Make Windows 10 infinitely better in two steps.
1: Install Classic Shell, you can now organise your start menu and add the shortcuts you want, rather than scroll through a big list with absolutely zero organisation ability.
2: Use the start button right click menu to get to the things that are actually useful.
There are plenty of other tweaks to be made, but most are preferential. Windows 10 is highly stable and works just fine 99% of the time. But Windows being Windows, it does have its moments every now and then.
My Windows install is the same one I started with in 2009. I have simply been upgrading to the newer versions each time. I had no issues with Vista, and no issues with 7 either. I do run a tight ship though, and the OS drive is often cloned over to a new bigger and faster drive each generation.
1: Install Classic Shell, you can now organise your start menu and add the shortcuts you want, rather than scroll through a big list with absolutely zero organisation ability.
2: Use the start button right click menu to get to the things that are actually useful.
There are plenty of other tweaks to be made, but most are preferential. Windows 10 is highly stable and works just fine 99% of the time. But Windows being Windows, it does have its moments every now and then.
My Windows install is the same one I started with in 2009. I have simply been upgrading to the newer versions each time. I had no issues with Vista, and no issues with 7 either. I do run a tight ship though, and the OS drive is often cloned over to a new bigger and faster drive each generation.
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I think the problem is microsoft is catering to such a massive chunk of the market, everything from scientists and engineers using specialist software to businessmen making presentations to gamers to the mass market who just browse facebook.
The phrase "jack of all trades master of none" has never been so apt, if you look at say android, which is very good when used for what it is, but falls down very quickly when you start bringing productivity into it. We're looking at windows here from the it professional and enthusiast perspective, so obviously we're gonna spot and make a big deal of issues windows has.
The problem with the newer os's is microsoft plainly wants to simplify, to move to a different way of doing things, but cant or wont do it full on which is limiting the effectiveness of what they can really do.
The phrase "jack of all trades master of none" has never been so apt, if you look at say android, which is very good when used for what it is, but falls down very quickly when you start bringing productivity into it. We're looking at windows here from the it professional and enthusiast perspective, so obviously we're gonna spot and make a big deal of issues windows has.
The problem with the newer os's is microsoft plainly wants to simplify, to move to a different way of doing things, but cant or wont do it full on which is limiting the effectiveness of what they can really do.
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No issues here either, both on an old laptop with a pentium M or similar and my gaming desktop. It's been the most stable OS I've ever used to be fair, my gfs Macbook crashes more.
Osx has far fewer hardware configurations to deal with so of course on the whole it'll be more reliable
Osx has far fewer hardware configurations to deal with so of course on the whole it'll be more reliable
I'm mostly happy, with Windows 10. My biggest gripe being one that has been mentioned here already, lack of control over updates. I have the "Professional" edition, so at least i can delay them and make sure they're not applied without my say-so, but ultimately i do have to accept them.
At home i use a combination of Windows, Linux (Lubuntu, Raspbian) and Android (the amazon fork).
My biggest tip for Win 10 is install a different launcher ( I use Launchy), then it's easy to just type the program that you want to launch, rather than using the mouse and start menu.
At home i use a combination of Windows, Linux (Lubuntu, Raspbian) and Android (the amazon fork).
My biggest tip for Win 10 is install a different launcher ( I use Launchy), then it's easy to just type the program that you want to launch, rather than using the mouse and start menu.
It might initially sound odd, but I think MS's biggest problem was when they didn't do a bad job of making an OS.
Prior to Win10, MS's business model was based on people buying new versions of software. As a result, when MS made a good version of Windows it threatened their revenue over time due to people not buying new versions of Windows. For example, my usage of Windows has been 3.1, 95, 98SE, XP, 7. I only upgraded the last 2 times when security support ended because the newer versions of Windows didn't give me enough extra to justify the cost. An OS doesn't wear out or go off, so why buy a new one when the one you already have works fine?
10 is different because MS has changed the basis of their OS business from making an OS to making spyware and a rootkit that has an OS attached to it. That's why they are so determined to steamroller everyone into having 10 - with 10, it's not the OS that's the product. It's the users that are the product. It's a shame, because the OS itself genuinely is an improvement over 7. Enough of an improvement for me to have bought it if it was just the OS. The interface is different and in many ways inferior, but there are ways to modify it to make it as good as the interface in 7. But the spyware, rootkit and MS's dogged determination to control user's PC's through it come what may mean that 10 is inherently insecure and unreliable. If you use 10, you can never, ever, be sure that it will carry on working because MS can and do break it remotely and repeatedly. You can be sure that you have neither security nor privacy, though.
I can understand why they've done it and I've no doubt it will make them money because most people will stick with Windows regardless and put up with the insecurity, unreliability and lack of privacy. But I don't like it and I don't want it and I know enough and have put enough time in to be able to evade MS's attempts to force it on me. I'm still using 7 and will do so until MS make it impossible to do so or I switch to a better OS.
My workplace still uses XP, which I think is taking "it still works just fine" too far. It's not even supported with security patches any more.
The only thing I'd use 10 for (or recommend anyone else use 10 for) is a PC that's used solely as a games console and then only because of DX12 (which MS won't port to 7 or 8 because it's currently the only good reason to use 10 by choice).
I'll probably switch to 10 for my games console PC and build a very small very quiet basic PC running Ubuntu for everything else. Or maybe use one of my 3 spare PCs for it, but I'm kind of in the mood to see how small and quiet I can go for it. I considered buying a PS4, but they're just not as good for gaming. I could get used to the adequate graphics and the almost adequate framerate, but I couldn't get used to the uncomfortable and inaccurate controller.
Prior to Win10, MS's business model was based on people buying new versions of software. As a result, when MS made a good version of Windows it threatened their revenue over time due to people not buying new versions of Windows. For example, my usage of Windows has been 3.1, 95, 98SE, XP, 7. I only upgraded the last 2 times when security support ended because the newer versions of Windows didn't give me enough extra to justify the cost. An OS doesn't wear out or go off, so why buy a new one when the one you already have works fine?
10 is different because MS has changed the basis of their OS business from making an OS to making spyware and a rootkit that has an OS attached to it. That's why they are so determined to steamroller everyone into having 10 - with 10, it's not the OS that's the product. It's the users that are the product. It's a shame, because the OS itself genuinely is an improvement over 7. Enough of an improvement for me to have bought it if it was just the OS. The interface is different and in many ways inferior, but there are ways to modify it to make it as good as the interface in 7. But the spyware, rootkit and MS's dogged determination to control user's PC's through it come what may mean that 10 is inherently insecure and unreliable. If you use 10, you can never, ever, be sure that it will carry on working because MS can and do break it remotely and repeatedly. You can be sure that you have neither security nor privacy, though.
I can understand why they've done it and I've no doubt it will make them money because most people will stick with Windows regardless and put up with the insecurity, unreliability and lack of privacy. But I don't like it and I don't want it and I know enough and have put enough time in to be able to evade MS's attempts to force it on me. I'm still using 7 and will do so until MS make it impossible to do so or I switch to a better OS.
My workplace still uses XP, which I think is taking "it still works just fine" too far. It's not even supported with security patches any more.
The only thing I'd use 10 for (or recommend anyone else use 10 for) is a PC that's used solely as a games console and then only because of DX12 (which MS won't port to 7 or 8 because it's currently the only good reason to use 10 by choice).
I'll probably switch to 10 for my games console PC and build a very small very quiet basic PC running Ubuntu for everything else. Or maybe use one of my 3 spare PCs for it, but I'm kind of in the mood to see how small and quiet I can go for it. I considered buying a PS4, but they're just not as good for gaming. I could get used to the adequate graphics and the almost adequate framerate, but I couldn't get used to the uncomfortable and inaccurate controller.
Not user friendly, or can't be arsed to learn?
Because Linux is very user friendly if you use the right distro.
GPE potentially has some side effects on versions that it wasn't intended for (including fairly major ones) and since the AU update MS has changed how it works as well so you might not find it managing all updates any more (depending on OS version).
I had an interesting experience recently (kind of related to something someone mentioned above) which I found a little eye opening - a project I was involved in had a bunch of Windows 8 laptops - personally I didn't like it but quite a few users did and were even defensive about the OS in general - couple of weeks back they were all updated to 10 and due to the way the OS is setup and corporate restrictions/policies in place its pretty much identical to what it was on 8 except some launcher functionality is different due to the differences between 8 and 10 in that area - suddenly they were super critical and unhappy with the overall OS and seeing all the flaws I was complaining about that before they were happy to accept/gloss over because the front end stuff for doing many repetitive tasks like launching applications better suited their usage style than Windows 7.
I think some of the users here who are all like "best OS ever" would see some of the sloppy incompetent development in 10 for what it really is if there was an update that removed those more immediate features that work better for their personal usage style that Windows 7 didn't cater for
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I can scan for and install the updates myself now, instead of windows 10 doing it for me, basically the same as win7 (never check for updates)