Winter tyre question

[Dr Who]

Kenai, you clearly want to stick to Sport contacts over the winter and are posting to justify your position (or whatever other summer tyre you use).

It is well known that winter tyres start to improve at -7, the manufacturers claim this and it would be retarded of them to make tyres that work under this temp when most of the time is spent above this, as it requires different compounds and silica content. But if you are unconvinced stick with what you have.

Why don't you show me some evidence that these tyres are better in ALL but snow when Evo clearly disagrees, and you have said nothing you havent already said before without countering points in my last post.

8th best in wet.... how is this best overall except snow?

What about ice?

What about damp salt slime where silica content makes a massive difference?

What about "white tarmac" with dry salt where silica content also makes a ig difference?

Flawed tests are flawed however you CHOOSE to interpret them.

Hey I will let your 6 years of driving experience counter my 28 years if you can actually provide something to counter the facts other than "your 7 degrees is invalid" when it is the benchmark every tyre manufacturer uses when designing winter tyre compounds.

 

[jon-]

Kenai, you clearly want to stick to Sport contacts over the winter and are posting to justify your position (or whatever other summer tyre you use).

It is well known that winter tyres start to improve at -7, the manufacturers claim this and it would be retarded of them to make tyres that work under this temp when most of the time is spent above this, as it requires different compounds and silica content. But if you are unconvinced stick with what you have.

Why don't you show me some evidence that these tyres are better in ALL but snow when Evo clearly disagrees, and you have said nothing you havent already said before without countering points in my last post.

8th best in wet.... how is this best overall except snow?

What about ice?

What about damp salt slime where silica content makes a massive difference?

What about "white tarmac" with dry salt where silica content also makes a ig difference?

Flawed tests are flawed however you CHOOSE to interpret them.

Hey I will let your 6 years of driving experience counter my 28 years if you can actually provide something to counter the facts other than "your 7 degrees is invalid" when it is the benchmark every tyre manufacturer uses when designing winter tyre compounds.

Just to back this up (my, there are some stubborn people on this forum)

Auto Express did the same tests and rated the tyres as an overall % per test.

Conti Sport Contact 3s
Wet handling: 95.3% (8th, above only nankang)
Wet braking: 80% and last

Naturally the summer tyre won the dry handling, but this was done above 7c.

 

[Dr Who]

Naturally the summer tyre won the dry handling, but this was done above 7c.

I don't get this, if you are gonna do a dry handling test, at least do it at +1-6 degrees and on a pre salted road to make the test valid.

Lazy **** journalists.

 

[ubersonic]

In my book, the fact it had damn good scores for everything except the snow test just goes to show that in fact it seems the whole 'winter tyres are vastly better as soon as it's a bit cold' thing is nonsense.

Your book is nonsense, lets see, who won the snow test? the winter tyre, who won the wet test? the winter tyre, who won the dry test the summer tyre. Continental themselves say if you can only afford one set of tyres you should run winters all year and I reckon that's pretty sound advice as losing a bit of grip in good driving conditions but gaining some in poor conditions is pretty much a no-brainer (plus in some of the UK its wet more than its dry anyway). For those of us who can afford to keep a second set having the winters on hand for Nov-March makes perfect sense as you get the best of both worlds.

Hell while they were doing their 2010 tests the editor of Evo was so surprised by how good they were he actually asked why they weren't a legal requirement at that time of year, and you say their pointless? lol.

 

[fadetoblack]

Next thing we hear from him is how great his summer tyres are in the snow.
Lol

 

[jon-]

They're AWESOME... (if you've always loved tobogganing)