wiping off debts

How is a credit rating screwed because of £6k debts? A personal loan will likely have a lower rate than a credit card.

Sorry, it's not the debt that's the issue, it's that you're going in saying "I can't afford to pay my debts. Please loan me some more money to settle my debts."

What could possibly go wrong?
 
[TW]Fox;17256532 said:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2680737

Here is a thread full of typical people in debt. Look particularly at the guy proudly explaining in his sig how almost £40,000 he borrowed is 'unenforceable'.

Sadly, fox does have a point

A large %, possibly even a majority of people in debt problems have done so through their own arrogance or stupidity and for most, it most certainly is their fault.


My point still stands however that people shouldnt be so quick to judge, we know nothing about the problems the OP's mum had that got her into this debt.

There's a world of difference between somebody running up debt without any real way of ever paying it off compared to somebody who has done everything right and then gets screwed over by life.

It happens.

Must admit the current Bankruptcy laws make me wonder how much of a deterrent it is? 2 years isn't it?

When you're heavily in debt all that you'll focus on is anyway out of it. The morals are very much back of the queue aren't they?


sadly the number who fit in the former group outweighs the number of people who fit the latter.
 
This this and this.
Been there, done it, got the t shirt.



I'd have a chat with the CCCS - consumer credit counselling service.

http://www.cccs.co.uk/

Stay away from anybody else that offers to "help" you with your debts. The vast majority want to provide the same sort of options that CCCS do, but for a fee or taking a cut of your monthly payments.

Dont believe the adverts that offer to wipe them out etc.. most are a con.

The CCCS service is free and very usefull. Give them a ring and discuss your problems with them, they will steer you in the right direction better than any of us can (assuming your unlikely to divulge all personal finances on here)

They could recommend something like a DMP - Debt management plan. CCCS will come up with a budget for your mum, detailing all her expenses and outgoings, and want proof of her incommings. They work out what she can afford then negotiate a better rate of interest with the bank on her behalf. You can try this on your own, but not all lenders will be co-operative with this approach unless she's talked to somebody like the CCCS.

What happens is that CCCS work out what she can afford, then take a payment each month for that ammount, and distribute it to her creditors. During this time access to the CC will be suspended.

Bankruptcy is very much a last resort and can wreck your credit for years after. DMP is much better as then your Credit Record at least shows you making payments, even if not the full one.

DMPs are usually offered to people with more than 10k of debt to more than 5 creditors however, so will probably not fit your mothers circumstances if one 7.4 grand card is all she has. Anyway CCCS will steer you in the right direction.
 
[TW]Fox;17262473 said:
I really wish they were allowed to chase you for every penny you squndered. Didnt you spend £40,000 of money you didnt have tuning a Subaru or something?

Same, I'm sure I'm one of the few that has lived within my means for the last 5 years, bought nothing at all on credit, and 'missed out' on holidays, nice watches, cars etc. Makes me feel pretty angry when people just get whatever they want whenever they want it, then have it all written off when they decide they can't afford it. :(

They banks should be allowed to chase them for life.
 
[TW]Fox;17262473 said:
I really wish they were allowed to chase you for every penny you squndered. Didnt you spend £40,000 of money you didnt have tuning a Subaru or something?

You made your point and opinion clear no need to quit banging your drum about it and questioning every poster who dares agree with some advice given.
 
I remember when I lost my job and was in £2k of debt and felt so stupid and depressed, god knows how people feel with 7.5k or even 40k.

Paying it all back and never ever having a credit card again and I live within my means, no gadgets, fancy clothes unless I save up for them.
 
[TW]Fox;17262473 said:
I really wish they were allowed to chase you for every penny you squndered. Didnt you spend £40,000 of money you didnt have tuning a Subaru or something?

I really hope that one day you make a mistake financially and are finally pushed off your high horse. :)
 
I really hope that one day you make a mistake financially and are finally pushed off your high horse. :)

You believe that the person quoted "accidentally" spent that £40k tuning a car? Its pathetic.

MrLOL says that we should not be as quick to judge, you can hardly blame us after our opinion is consistently reinforced by everything we read. Just look at the MSE forums.
 
I really hope that one day you make a mistake financially and are finally pushed off your high horse. :)

I will thoroughly deserve it if I run up £40k of credit card debt. It will be absolutely my own fault.

I wouldnt call spending £40k tuning a car a 'mistake', though. Perhaps the fact that some people think its just a 'mistake' contribute to the problem.
 
I really hope that one day you make a mistake financially and are finally pushed off your high horse. :)
What a stupid thing to say. Saying people should take responsibility for their actions rather than expecting others to pay for their mistakes is hardly being on a high horse...


Wow, I just agreed with Fox... I feel a little sullied ;)
 
Not at all, I was more referring to the fact that Fox has made his point quite clear already and is now coming across as more of an arse than usual.

I'd agree that borrowing substantially more than you can afford and wasting it is a stupid idea, but not everybody goes in with the same sheep mind set as people keep mentioning in this thread, there are situations where however much common sense you have you can still end up in a mess due to simply paying to keep a roof over your head etc.

I'd even go as far as agreeing with Fox to an extent as everyone needs to have financial responsibility, money isn't free and SHOULD be paid back, but I'm not of the opinion that the blame is entirely laid on whomever leant the money in the first place, and I'm certainly not going to come across in such an arrogant manner as Fox has.

Edit: Yeah, that wasn't the best quote to illustrate my point was it, well done Gimp :$
 
The weird thing is there seems to be no shame. Some people hold it up like a badge of honour, Scubascorpion is constantly referring to it (The only reason I know the amount and what he spent it on).

You'd probably never hear about it if I did get myself into that sort of mess because I would be so ashamed of myself I wouldnt feel comfortable to talk about it.
 
[TW]Fox;17263114 said:
I will thoroughly deserve it if I run up £40k of credit card debt. It will be absolutely my own fault.

I wouldnt call spending £40k tuning a car a 'mistake', though. Perhaps the fact that some people think its just a 'mistake' contribute to the problem.

How is that a mistake, 2k is a mistake, 40k is acting the ****.
 
[TW]Fox;17263196 said:
The weird thing is there seems to be no shame. Some people hold it up like a badge of honour, Scubascorpion is constantly referring to it (The only reason I know the amount and what he spent it on).

You'd probably never hear about it if I did get myself into that sort of mess because I would be so ashamed of myself I wouldnt feel comfortable to talk about it.

Looking at it like that I can see where you're coming from, as I agree that it is nothing to be proud of what so ever, but as I said not everybody in this kind of trouble is where they are for the same reasons.

Apologies for the quite frankly appalling quote to illustrate my point too, my bad. :o
 
I remember when I lost my job and was in £2k of debt and felt so stupid and depressed, god knows how people feel with 7.5k or even 40k.

Paying it all back and never ever having a credit card again and I live within my means, no gadgets, fancy clothes unless I save up for them.

At one point I was £1,500 into my overdraft, and £4,000 on my credit card.

That was 2 years ago, hard work and more hard work means i have paid it ALL off with a little on my account too. It is a great feeling not paying £100+ on interest alone on the credit card and not making a dent in the sum owed.

I wasn't ashamed to be in debt but I don't talk about it.
 
[TW]Fox;17256532 said:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2680737

Here is a thread full of typical people in debt. Look particularly at the guy proudly explaining in his sig how almost £40,000 he borrowed is 'unenforceable'.

You'd have to question why somebody can get this amount of credit.

I don't agree with mounting up lots of debt then omfg I can't pay it I'm going to get in IVA or go bankrupt. Sometimes though the banks lend money a little easy as they know they'll be getting 20-30-40% interest of any defaults. Who's more greedy, the bank or the person spending the money the bank want to make off them?

IMO you should only be allowed ONE credit card linked to income. 40k's worth of credit cards is insane. wow.
 
At one point I was £1,500 into my overdraft, and £4,000 on my credit card.

That was 2 years ago, hard work and more hard work means i have paid it ALL off with a little on my account too. It is a great feeling not paying £100+ on interest alone on the credit card and not making a dent in the sum owed.

I wasn't ashamed to be in debt but I don't talk about it.

Massive difference between that and spunking money on a car you havent got.

One is just the way it goes sometimes and the other is taking the ****.
 
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