Wireless network issue. please help

sic6six

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My g/f has brought her first wireless router and a wireless usb adapter(plugged into pc)
They are both netgear
Router is a Rangemax. Model DG834PN
USB Adapter is also a Rangemax. Model WPN111

The problem is it is only running at half the speed when it is supposed to run at 108mbps, where as ity is only running at 54mbps.

Can any one give any guidance as to how to get the speed up to its full potential.
(oh at the moment, both router and adapter are in the same room as she was testing them out, the computer will be moved later on)

Also she has a laptop with onboard Wireless and has some problems with MSN messenger disconnecting itself and the same with games. any assistance would be gratefully apreciated

Sic6siX
 
(sic6six here)
doesnt anyone know anything about the experienced problems state above??

please do not post from other people's accounts, even if you know them! log out from them and log in as you, otherwise you risk looking like you have duplicate accounts which is certainly frowned upon. thankss
 
BoomAM said:
The WPN111 is only 54g compatible. :)
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No it isn't. From the datasheet:

Wireless Speeds:

-1, 2, 5.5, 6, 9, 11, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, 54, 108 Mbps

Check that the router is set to run at 108Mbit.
 
where do i check that out.
and yes the WPN111 is 108mbps

(apologies to the admin too for using my g/fs account. she was on her laptop cuz pc was off and her account was already logged in)
 
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Hmm.
A certain online retailer has the specs listed wrong then. :p

You do know that your A) not guaranteed anywhere near 108Mbps. & B) that with it being a USB adaptor, i doubt you'll get any good speed out of it.
 
sic6six said:
not to sound arrogant and ignorant but what exactly am i looking for as that doesnt really help much.
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:confused: I can't explain it any clearer. What does it say under the Wireless Settings section of the web management?
 
Assuming the router's wireless configuration is set to "Auto 108Mbps" then it should in theory work.
Due to the way the Atheros Super-G chipset used by the router works - using channel bonding - ie more than one channel at once (which is why when it is setup for Auto 108Mbps it forces channel 6 - since channel bonding needs something like a continuous 40Mhz of spectrum which only locking to channel 6 can provide) it only ramps up to 108Mbps when it thinks it is needed - for example copying large files accross a network etc. This is becuase you really don't want to be hogging more of the wireless spectrum than you need to - which of course channel bonding does.
In general web browsing type use in theory you wouldn't need the full 108Mbps so it would normally remain connected at 54Mbps.
This is all of course the theory anyway. ;)
 
Usually in Dynamic 108, it will use 108, unless it can't get a good signal, so it will reduce the speed to get a better signal. Afaik it won't stop using both channels, at any point. If you use Static 108, it will connect at 108, regardless of signal.
 
Phnom_Penh said:
Usually in Dynamic 108, it will use 108, unless it can't get a good signal, so it will reduce the speed to get a better signal. Afaik it won't stop using both channels, at any point. If you use Static 108, it will connect at 108, regardless of signal.
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Was under the impression that the Atheros chiset only bonded channels when it needed too. I know the DG834PN I had with a WPN511 only ever jumped to 108Mbps when it *appeared* to need the bandwidth. 90% of the time the Netgear utility only reported 54Mbps (despite Windows itself always reporting 108Mbps).
 
Not as far as I know, the paper says it will always use two channels, but will just drop the speeds when it needs to improve the signal. The router will always be broadcasting two mac channels, as something like netstumbler would show.

I tell you what though, You think SuperG hogs the spectrum? wait untill 802.11n ;).
 
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Phnom_Penh said:
Not as far as I know, the paper says it will always use two channels, but will just drop the speeds when it needs to improve the signal. The router will always be broadcasting two mac channels, as something like netstumbler would show.
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Interesting - got a link to the paper? Was definitely seeing a speed jump when needing more bandwidth and this was width the router and card a couple of feet apart. Of course the addition of the Video54 Beamflex technology could have a hand in it all, and I don't really know quite how it hooks into the Atheros chipset.

Phnom_Penh said:
I tell you what though, You think SuperG hogs the spectrum? wait untill 802.11n ;).
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I know - I read the Toms Networking review of the Netgear WPNT834 and the comments about the Airgo Active Channel Expansion features (pretty much as in the 802.11n specs) that Airgo claims to be "neighbour friendly" but it turns rather the opposite.
Going to be great fun when everyone in the neighbourhood has 802.11n kit. :rolleyes:
 
sl33pyhead said:
Interesting - got a link to the paper? Was definitely seeing a speed jump when needing more bandwidth and this was width the router and card a couple of feet apart. Of course the addition of the Video54 Beamflex technology could have a hand in it all, and I don't really know quite how it hooks into the Atheros chipset.
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I can't find the specific paper, although a different paper makes me think that you're right, although for the wrong reason. The router won't use both channels all the time, so that 54g/11b equipment can join the network, but it won't stop broadcasting both channels, and will therefore still use the same amount of the band.

It would be usefull to investiage this further, but I don't have a cro to hand ;).
 
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