Soldato
I get the point that WiFi won't technically be as good as wired ethernet. But the key question is surely, is it good enough for your use cases? I fear I've come to the wrong forum to argue this point!
Soldato
Yeah i do agree actually, it depends on what you're doing i guess. Wifi is generally 'good enough' for most stuff nowadays especially if you put in a mesh network.
If i'd moved into this house without any ethernet already installed i'd have done that as it'd have been such a pain to try and retro fit it into a modern house without a loft.
But if you do have the chance to install hard wired then it's a no brainer.
Soldato
why without a loft, cant cables run under floorboards and switches be put under stairs or in cupboards???
Soldato
Are you intentionally ignoring that lifting floorboards is not a five minute job in an established house with carpet, LVT, whatever?
Which comes back to my point - if 3/4 wireless signal strength and 70Mb/s is good enough for my use cases, then I'm not going to spend hours of effort lifting carpet and floorboards to get some extra Mb/s that I won't notice or need!
Define and validate the problem before jumping to solutioneering!
Soldato
funny as i didnt think this was your thread and i didnt say that lifting floorboards was a five minute job. i just stated you dont need a loft to do these sorts of thing. People on here are renovating thier properties, fitting carpets floors etc etc so they already have access...... it just doesnt always need a loft.
Also cables can run in trunking along skirting boards and run into existing trunking if surface mounted. im currently using ethernet through power adaptors in sockets, some say their useless, i have never had a problem with them, its horses for courses......
Soldato
I cabled my house mainly because it was going to be easy, I had a hole above my router that Virgin used to run coax through that I could reuse to get cables upstairs, little trunking in a corner and its out of sight. This then went up into a cupboard and I have external pipes boxed in around the upstairs rooms, so I ran cables through them to get to the other rooms and then ran a couple upstairs into the loft for my media server. All in it cost me about a tenner as I had left over cable from work and just needed to get a few face plates and sockets to terminate onto that I couldn't pickup from work. Only one room I couldn't cable without drilling, so I left that room without sockets as its just the spare room and gets used a couple times a year and the TV can cope on the Wifi.
Edit - Main reason I did it is I work in telecoms and wanted to have a decent connection for POE for phones.
Edit - Main reason I did it is I work in telecoms and wanted to have a decent connection for POE for phones.
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the hypocrisy here is too strong. Not a lot of effort yet you've done a landlord special along skirting board and ethernet power adaptors?
Soldato
what you mean a landlord special...i didnt say have a cables a long skirting boards ( i know you struggle with comprehension) i said " you can do"......
Ethernet power adaptors are there to be used and i use them succesfully....others dont, but they suite my needs. As for you..crack on with dodgy refurb and giving us a good laugh with all your pictures.
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Soldato
My house has a concrete slab floor and no loft space so it'd be a nightmare to retro fit anything really!
As i say luckily as it was a self build i put in about 24 cat6 points all over the house and over to my garage with a network cabinet in my utility room.
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I love arriving in a thread to find people I "know" from other threads having a healthy discussion.
Carry on
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it's not something I would do to a decorated house.
Last house I was lucky enough to be able to get the cable runs put in during the build.
Current house I'm kind of lucky in that I am renovating most rooms with additional sockets and pulling up the floors so I can add ethernet whilst I am doing that.
but still had to make holes in walls and patch over with filler/plaster.
Our house is 13m long and my "office" is at one end and utility (where my network cab is placed) is at the other.
I had the electrician run cables up from utility to the loft, along the entire length of the house, then down the waste stack to the office, this took him most of the day and did have to make some mess in the back of the bathroom cupboard where it wouldn't be seen.
the one room I had to make quite a mess was the living room, but I just got the wall skimmed afterwards.
The bedroom above I had taken the floor up to run cables, add speakers and soundproofing and cure squeaky floorboards
This was before (the diagonal line was a wire I found in the wall that had been chopped off at both ends so i removed it.
Last house I was lucky enough to be able to get the cable runs put in during the build.
Current house I'm kind of lucky in that I am renovating most rooms with additional sockets and pulling up the floors so I can add ethernet whilst I am doing that.
but still had to make holes in walls and patch over with filler/plaster.
Our house is 13m long and my "office" is at one end and utility (where my network cab is placed) is at the other.
I had the electrician run cables up from utility to the loft, along the entire length of the house, then down the waste stack to the office, this took him most of the day and did have to make some mess in the back of the bathroom cupboard where it wouldn't be seen.
the one room I had to make quite a mess was the living room, but I just got the wall skimmed afterwards.
The bedroom above I had taken the floor up to run cables, add speakers and soundproofing and cure squeaky floorboards
This was before (the diagonal line was a wire I found in the wall that had been chopped off at both ends so i removed it.
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I don't know why our house never had ethernet, they ran TV aerials to each room, but not ethernet as well lol. Can't see it would have cost that much to do.
Daughters room also suffers from WiFi loss, insulation, solid wall, it's like a dead zone.
Daughters room also suffers from WiFi loss, insulation, solid wall, it's like a dead zone.