Woman died of thirst in lift after workmen cut power

I've never understood why they dont implement a simple override system which mechanically disengages any mechanism which is keeping the doors tight. I mean so many things have escape mechanisms in place except lifts, why?!

cause there's no where to go?

unless you think trying to force yourself through a very narrow gap so you can fall to your death an option regularly required?
 
Wow. That's awful. How the hell did they not see her? Also pretty sure lift doors can be manually opened just down to the design of the mechanism.
 
cause there's no where to go?

unless you think trying to force yourself through a very narrow gap so you can fall to your death an option regularly required?

I'd rather take my death on my own terms deciding my own fate monkeying about an elevator shaft than trapped dying of thirst.

If it came down to a decision for a slim chance of life versus a definite chance of death i think most folk would choose living.
 
I'd rather take my death on my own terms deciding my own fate monkeying about an elevator shaft than trapped dying of thirst.

If it came down to a decision for a slim chance of life versus a definite chance of death i think most folk would choose living.


a lot of shafts though there isn't really any space to get out of the doors between floors.

its just a few inch gap and a solid wall.
 
a lot of shafts though there isn't really any space to get out of the doors between floors.

its just a few inch gap and a solid wall.

I should imagine the height gap between floors cant be that big, even a 4 ft gap would mean a lift would always be overlapping at least a portion of one floor at all times, so if you can get the doors open then your home free.
 
There are no hatches in lifts. It's safer to be in the car if the lift has a technical issue.

Obviously that's assuming that people are on hand to bring the lift down to a floor and then manually open the doors and it's not happening in China.
 
In pitch black the whole time too 0_0

There are lots of videos of incredibly poor workmanship on Chinese lifts, escalators, man-hole covers, you name it.
 
cause there's no where to go?

unless you think trying to force yourself through a very narrow gap so you can fall to your death an option regularly required?

What do you mean there's nowhere to go?

A typical lift is minimum 7 feet high.

What's the average void space between floors? Max 5 feet at a complete guess, average would be a lot lower.

Which leaves you with a 2 feet window to either escape one floor up if you can climb a floor, or fall a few feet down a floor.

Heck even if you can escape into the void then come down through a ceiling tile is an option.



I don't know how you've concluded that having a manual override on a regular lift door means a hatch pointing straight down to death?
 
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What do you mean there's nowhere to go?

A typical lift is minimum 7 feet high.

What's the average void space between floors? Max 5 feet at a complete guess, average would be a lot lower.

Which leaves you with a 2 feet window to either escape one floor up if you can climb a floor, or fall a few feet down a floor.

Heck even if you can escape into the void then come down through a ceiling tile is an option.



I don't know how you've concluded that having a manual override on a regular lift door means a hatch pointing straight down to death?

If a lift hasn't aligned with a floor properly then there is no guarantees that it will stay where it has currently stopped.

The fix for people being trapped in lifts is to have legislation that ensures anybody who operates a building with lifts in has a service contract in place to make sure that people can be freed from faulty ones. It isn't to give people inside a lift car a method of opening the doors between floors.
 
What do you mean there's nowhere to go?

A typical lift is minimum 7 feet high.

What's the average void space between floors? Max 5 feet at a complete guess, average would be a lot lower.

Which leaves you with a 2 feet window to either escape one floor up if you can climb a floor, or fall a few feet down a floor.

?

because the outer doors are locked iirc. and need a key to unlock and over ride. (fireman's key, drop key etc)

surely you can see the major danger in being able to pull open the doors of a lift shaft?

versus the incredibly rare danger of being abandoned in a lift in a completely unused and unmanaged building?


Heck even if you can escape into the void then come down through a ceiling tile is an option.


through the concrete lift shaft wall?

I don't know how you've concluded that having a manual override on a regular lift door means a hatch pointing straight down to death


i didn't say that at all.

i said theres a gap with a big drop below it, with no where really to go.

air vents have grates the outer doors are locked and the gaps arent really very wide between the lifts and the walls.
 
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If a lift hasn't aligned with a floor properly then there is no guarantees that it will stay where it has currently stopped.

The fix for people being trapped in lifts is to have legislation that ensures anybody who operates a building with lifts in has a service contract in place to make sure that people can be freed from faulty ones. It isn't to give people inside a lift car a method of opening the doors between floors.

Afaik dont lifts have a ratchet mechanism on the guide rails that will halt the lift even in the event of the cable snapping?

If the cable hasnt snapped then either the balancing will keep it where it is or what i'd reckon a more smart design would be that it'll slowly descend so its default electrical fault position is the ground floor
 
complete guess

This is where your post should have stopped. Here are some more complete guesses:

What if the space between floors in that building was greater than the height of the lift doors?
What if the lift was stuck above a floor with high ceilings, like a mezzanine?

Have you ever opened the inside doors in a lift? I stupidly did once when I was a kid. I can verify that there was not nearly enough space for a person to slither up or down between floors through the gap between lift and shaft. The only way out through the doors was through both sets of doors. Oh and I've never seen anything that looks remotely like a hatch in a lift.


or fall a few feet down a floor.

How would one catch oneself after a few feet of freefall?
 
Horrible way to go :(
When I was at school a friends dad got crushed to death in a lift.He was a maintenance guy. Never liked lifts since.
 
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