Word of mouth?

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Hi,

If I take my car to a garage and ask for a new bumper to be fitted, recieve a verbal quote of £180 and come back a week later to recieve a bill of £280 and my original bumper being repaired rather than replaced, what can I do?

I will go in to more/better detail later when my girlfriend writes up her account of what has happened. Basically my girlfriend, Emma, went to a Fords dealership to have her rear bumper replaced and a side panel repaired under insurance after an accident in which another driver went in to the rear of her car.

While she as there she took the oppurtunity to ask how much it would cost to have a couple of scuffs (again done by other cars) repaired on her front bumper. She was given a quote (can't remember how much ATM) so she then asked how much it would cost to have the whole bumper replaced.

She was quoted £180 and this is when the Ford employee started writing down on his sheet. A couple of days later Emma phoned to ask if it would be possible to keep the existing bumper also. She was told, by admin, that it should be fine.

So we arrive at Fords today with the rear bumper and side panel repaired. We are then greeted with a £280 bill. So can we have the old bumper too please? "Uhh, no, you have had your bumper repaired".

We are passed over to the manager who shows us the invoice. £180 for LABOUR, £64 for a new bump strip and £30-odd for paint. Emma expresses her point in that she is certain the Fords employee only started writing on his invoice WHEN she asked about having a new bumper fitted. The Fords manager has upmost faith in his 'highly qualified' employee and assures us that we would never had got a new bumper for anything around £200. After 20 minutes of arguing there appears to be little resolve.

We are told that we could get a new bumper for £350 if they take the old one away. Emma agrees and we are to go back to Fords next week for them to remove the current repaired bumper and replace it for a new one.

I think the crutch lies today with the fact that 'said employee' was on holiday so we couldn't hear his side of the story. But the point is Emma thought , rightly so in my opinion, that she was getting a new bumper (plus the possibility of her old one back ) for £180. Nothing was said about inc VAT or labour, NOR it being repaired.

The only thing that worries me is that Emma wasn't given an invoice/quote when she left the first time. If we had seen a £180 bill for labour / repair etc we would have phoned them up and told them to cancel it. We didn't though.

What can we do?
 
I can see why you feel angry about it, but what I don't understand is why you are now going to pay £350 for a new bumper. Is the repair not of satisfactory quality, if so why not just get them to do it again?
 
M0T said:
but what I don't understand is why you are now going to pay £350 for a new bumper. Is the repair not of satisfactory quality, if so why not just get them to do it again?

Good question, I wondered this too and it was because Emma felt as though she was being bullied in to accepting the offer of a new bumper. She did ask three times if she could just pay for the bill and leave however the Manager kept persuading her to accept the bumper offer. This I wasn't aware of.

She has written a letter and will e-mail it to customer services and will also take it to her next visit to Fords. Is there any way of getting Trading Standards involved or any other way of threatening them?
 
[TW]Fox said:
You said this was an insurance job?

Who is paying, you or the insurer?
From what I've read the car was there having the rear repaired courtesy of the insurance company, however the front was being repaired out of the customers own pocket, while the car was already at the garage.
 
Ev0 said:
Sadly unless you got a written quotation it's your word against his :(

Always get it in writing :)
Harsh but unfortunately true. Garages can be ********.
 
Word of mouth means nothing as its so hard to prove either way.

Have the insurance company approved the extra work? I'd hate for Emma to have to fork it out of her own pocket. Has the bumper actually been replaced or is it just booked in to be done?

What dealership was this out of curiosity?

You could give Trading Standards a ring, but I doubt there's anything they could do mate.

Looks like you've been screwed over royally.

Burnsy

P.s. Say hi to Emma for me BTW
 
burnsy2023 said:
Word of mouth means nothing as its so hard to prove either way.

Have the insurance company approved the extra work? I'd hate for Emma to have to fork it out of her own pocket. Has the bumper actually been replaced or is it just booked in to be done?

What dealership was this out of curiosity?

You could give Trading Standards a ring, but I doubt there's anything they could do mate.

Looks like you've been screwed over royally.

Burnsy

P.s. Say hi to Emma for me BTW

The accident repair work has been completed and paid for under the other guys insurance. The work that I was paying to have done was to have the front bumper replaced, however they have only repaired my existing bumper. I now have the car booked in to get a new bumper fitted for £352.54 and I am trying to keep my existing bumper as I did not agree for the work to be done to it in the first place. The only reason that they now want to keep it (even though they said that it would be ok for me to keep it) is because they have repaired it. Can they do this?
 
Emma said:
The accident repair work has been completed and paid for under the other guys insurance. The work that I was paying to have done was to have the front bumper replaced, however they have only repaired my existing bumper. I now have the car booked in to get a new bumper fitted for £352.54 and I am trying to keep my existing bumper as I did not agree for the work to be done to it in the first place. The only reason that they now want to keep it (even though they said that it would be ok for me to keep it) is because they have repaired it. Can they do this?

Right, lets get this straight:
The bumper is fixed and the repair work has been paid for.

You now want the bumper to be replaced. This will also be paid for under the insurance. You also want to keep the bumper that has been repaired and paid for.

If this is the case, you, or technically, the insurance company legally own this bumper and the garage has no claim on it.

Burnsy
 
Why do you want to keep the existing bumper?

Is the repair not of a satisfactory standard? What does the front bumper currently look like?
 
[TW]Fox said:
It'd have to be worth an awful lot to make buying a brand new one and paying extra cash when it's been repaired worth it :(
What I was getting at is maybe she doesnt like the idea of a repaired bumper, can it be as strong as one which has not been repaired?
 
Right, It was agreed that the front bumper would be REPLACED at my expence (nothing to do with insurance) and that I could keep the original bumper. My reason for wanting to keep my original bumper is because I intended to sell it. However, Ford have REPAIRED my original bumper and charged me a higher price, neither of which were discussed when I got the quote.

Why should they be able to keep my original bumper when I didnt agree for the work to be done to it in the first place? I assume that the only reason they want to keep it now is because they have repaired it. As far as I can see it's their mistake so their loss
 
my mum got a quote for a service.

when she got the bill it was almost double iirc.

she just kicked up a fuss about the original quote, and got it at that price :)
 
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