Work roles question

[anything I don't mind]

I have been working at my current place of employment for over 3 years now. I started as a 1st/2nd line. When I was 1st/2nd line, the third line engineer who worked 3 days a week at the site i worked at, call him bob. above bob was a guy called tom. Tom was a senior technical manager. He managed 6 sites and looked after about 10 employees. Tom would do all the big projects and any licensing etc.

Well tom left and bob moved up from third line in to this new role. I was moved to another site and moved up to a third line role. Another guy we call peter he was hired new from another company and he took the third line role at the other site that is basically doing third line for 4 sites +-.

We started getting a lot of big project work at these 4 sites and peter was moved in to a "project only" third line role and i was moved from that other site to do the third line role across the four sites, meant to operational and some project work.

Well peter has just got a new job and leaves in two weeks. Now Bob who used to do the job that i am currently doing, has said that i need to shadow peter for the next couple of weeks and take over any projects he has been doing. But as i know that when Tom did that role of senior technical manager, he used to do the projects and a lot more work than bob currently does. Now bob is essentially asking me to do what i think should be his job. When bob was doing my job he refused to do any 2nd line and didn't do any big projects. But now i am meant to support all the 2nd line guys with assistance and do projects and i am still on a 2nd line salary as i was meant to be moving up to real third line salary next month at pay review. So even if peter was not leaving i was meant to get a big pay rise next month as i am essentially underpaid for my role because i came up from 2nd, i took the role at a lower rate to get a third line role experience.

The issue is how do i approach this. Hope that was not too confusing. Basically peter (the guy that's leaving) said that i am looking at it wrong and if i play my cards right could come out better off. But I am not that optimistic i just see this bob guy not doing his job and resulting in his old job that i now do, duties increasing more and more. But i can't exactly tell my boss, hey isn't that meant to be your job.

 

[Bear]

Is the answer Bob with the blue eyes lives in a bungalow with his sister and drives a Mondeo?

 

[lurkio]

Is the answer Bob with the blue eyes lives in a bungalow with his sister and drives a Mondeo?

epic reply

 

[Skidder]

Every time you post a work thread your poverty of ambition and contempt for logic is quite clear.

 

[Freakbro]

Just find a better spot for that mid afternoon work nap?

 

[elmarko]

Just find a better spot that that mid afternoon work fap?

Fixed.

 

[aln]

Every time you post a work thread your poverty of ambition and contempt for logic is quite clear.

Indeed. How this guy ever got to even 3rd line is a joke and I suspect his skills shant transfer based on his lack of desire to do anything interesting.

 

[Freakbro]

Fixed.

Just in case you didn't know, I was obliquely referencing Groens other famous thread of Sleeping at Work

 

[Raumarik]

OP - this is how the world works, person gets promoted, knows his/her old job was easier than he made out it was, shoved extra work onto the poor sod who replaces him/her.

If you aren't a project manager, ask for training. Shadowing project work is pretty pointless, you need some basic project management skills if your work actually want you to have a chance to do it effectively.

Alternatively just sit down with "Bob" and explain the situation, as for a risk if you feel it's deserved, but from what you've written it's not a workload issue, you're more annoyed at not being paid more.

You have third line experience - perhaps look for a post elsewhere, hell project management experience is pretty valuable in third line.

 

[Raumarik]

Just in case you didn't know, I was obliquely referencing Groens other famous thread of Sleeping at Work

Sounds like perhaps "Bob" is wise to the amount of work he actually does then

 

[randomshenans]

I'm with Skids.

I'd not have taken on any of the roles without change in my salary. Just turn around and say if they want you to cover that, there needs to be a change in your actual role. Title, salary and all that goes with it. You're being mugged.

 

[glenimp617]

Hey dude,

get over it

This is how the world works....don't like it, MOVE JOBS

People who get promoted do so because they are rubbish at their current job. Easier to promote than to make redundant.

If you are good at your job, you stay in your job. WHY would an employer move someone who is good at their job?

want a promotion? start making mistakes

want a career? self study and move jobs

Management is the art of looking busy while giving all the work to other people

welcome to the last ten years

 

[isonomicjedi]

I always found cheese and pickle the best for work.

Occasionally plain ham.

 

[Arsonist]

Wut? This post made very little sense to me.

 

[randomshenans]

Hey dude,

get over it

This is how the world works....don't like it, MOVE JOBS

People who get promoted do so because they are rubbish at their current job. Easier to promote than to make redundant.

If you are good at your job, you stay in your job. WHY would an employer move someone who is good at their job?

want a promotion? start making mistakes

want a career? self study and move jobs

Management is the art of looking busy while giving all the work to other people

welcome to the last ten years

I like you Glen.

 

[Sudden]

I guess it depends on your role and where you work. I'm more than happy to take on as much as I can handle, regardless of the task being in my job description, just to get the experience of doing it and learning more. I pass work on to other teams when someone who doesn't know what we do contacts us and it is in the other team's remit. If someone in the wider team asks me to do something though, i'm always happy to.

It's resulted in me being kept longer than intended, being able to move teams once my internship is ended because everyone supported me, and regular salary increases.

If my boss gives me something to do that he should be doing, I take it as a sign of confidence that he trusts me enough with it. I mean, doing that job is how you will ultimately end up in it, no? Why would you get promoted if all you've ever done is your current role alone without taking on more responsibility and doing your boss' role?

But maybe it's because i'm still very junior in the company.

 

[anything I don't mind]

I am going to stop being so negative about it. I have learned netapp today and will be setting up some new esx to go with in the next few weeks and the guy that's leaving is going through it with me. So i shouldn't relay be complaining. I think the biggest issue is pay and fact that my boss needs to do more work. But i think you guys are right i just need to focus on my stuff and if my boss does not want to do any work then he will get done for it eventually. Just need to get more money next month or they realy trying one on.

 

[LordSplodge]

. I have learned netapp today and will be setting up some new esx to go with in the next few weeks.

Oh no you haven't. It takes years to become a SAN administrator. You don't have the beard for it.

Just be careful. Messing around with a SAN can end very badly... Good area to get skilled up in (as long as you don't mind throat-beards)

 

[LordSplodge]

If my boss gives me something to do that he should be doing, I take it as a sign of confidence that he trusts me enough with it.

Or he wants it to fail so you take the blame?

 

[Sudden]

Or he wants it to fail so you take the blame?

Why in the world would he want it to fail? If it is his project and it fails, then he looks bad. I'm in his team and he would get the flak since a project his team was doing failed.