Think about what you have just said and then think about how people change jobs. I used about a weeks worth of my holiday at my last job to do just that. I think that trying to take them at their word literally will get you nowhere.
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Think about what you have just said and then think about how people change jobs. I used about a weeks worth of my holiday at my last job to do just that. I think that trying to take them at their word literally will get you nowhere.
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Exactly. Luckily over here they seem to be much more going with it being optional, back home might not have had so much luck.
It's not work experience, it's slave labour.
Sorry but pretty much anyone can work in a shop, or in a call centre, or as a cleaner or any manner of other menial **** jobs they try to push on people. You don't need experience or qualifications to do those jobs, that is why they are paid so badly.
It just feeds the poor staffing practise of the businesses involved, gives them incentive to reduce the hours of their current staff or take on less, and in the end boosts unemployment.
Put eloquently by Kevin Bridges "David Cameron says one of the aims of the scheme is to help boost peoples self esteem, how does working in pound stretcher for no wages boost your self esteem? A shop where everything is worth a pound, except you"
Sorry but pretty much anyone can work in a shop, or in a call centre, or as a cleaner or any manner of other menial **** jobs they try to push on people. You don't need experience or qualifications to do those jobs, that is why they are paid so badly.
It just feeds the poor staffing practise of the businesses involved, gives them incentive to reduce the hours of their current staff or take on less, and in the end boosts unemployment.
Put eloquently by Kevin Bridges "David Cameron says one of the aims of the scheme is to help boost peoples self esteem, how does working in pound stretcher for no wages boost your self esteem? A shop where everything is worth a pound, except you"
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You can look at it that way or you can look at the number of people going into the work environment who have never worked for whatever reason and would choose not to given the chance of doing a job they don't want to do vs not having a job.
Just as you say it doesn't boost self esteen, I could argue that given the choice of doing all these "work experience" placements or getting a proper job might persuade people to try harder to find work.
Like any scheme it won't account for 100% of people but something has to be done and this is a step in the right direction for a lot of people.
Depends how many hours they're asking you to work. You should only be able to work for your JSA by them breaking your fortnightly claim down, weekly, by the hour @ minimum wage. Beyond this it's slave labour.
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40 hours.
if its being sold as a 'trial week' then its a bit flawed... if they want you to do a work trial in order to see if you'd be a good fit then surely having you come in for a few hours at most could tick that box....
I don't see the issue with 'work experience' for people who are becoming hopeless cases after being unemployed for prolonged periods but getting someone who's only been unemployed for a month to work unpaid for a week under the pretense that its a legitimate part of an interview/selection for a job is a complete **** take.
I don't see the issue with 'work experience' for people who are becoming hopeless cases after being unemployed for prolonged periods but getting someone who's only been unemployed for a month to work unpaid for a week under the pretense that its a legitimate part of an interview/selection for a job is a complete **** take.
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Screw lining the pockets of a private company, do some charity work instead.
Once you work more than one day, it is.
It's a ****-poor amount to be paid for a week's work, which can create a rather negative outlook on seeking employment for those who haven't worked much, and it's presumably free for the employer.
What incentive do businesses like B&Q have to actually employ people full-time when they can tap into a free labour market? I can appreciate free labour for skilled work where inexperienced people aren't able to contribute much but simple tasks anyone off the street could do? That's just kicking people when they're down and leaves a rather sour taste in my mouth. I could maybe understand the scheme if it was solely aimed at people with absolutely no experience in employment but it's becoming evident that isn't the case which suggests an ulterior motive.
Lol, they don't even respond to inquiries.
Long term (over 12 months unemployed) I've always said they should make people do work for the good of society - litter picking, fish net mending. Generally the kind of crap prisoners do, it saves public money and it gives layabouts incentive to get a job.
The scheme benefits the private sector companies while costing the taxpayers money (because if we didn't give the stores thousands of free man hours they would be forced to hire more people), it's outrageous.
No one is going to turn around and say "look, he has 4 weeks forced work experience stacking shelves, what a go getter" it's a complete waste of time.
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Yes, that's exactly what he said. But considering the influx of trialists and the fact it's only for 2 vacancies.. well, you can understand my apprehension.
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That's really unfortunate that you've had no luck with the charities. I had a great time doing it and I was treated rather nicely and made some great contacts for the future.
Yep, it's really bizzare you'd expect them to respond extremely quickly but I haven't heard a word from a charity store I shot a few CV's at.
There's no way for you know unfortunately, if you like the look of the job all you can really do is work hard for the week and hope for the best.
If they are just using vacancies as a carrot on a stick for free kabour then you'll just have to go back to being a 'workshy layabout' as the unemployed are not exploited whatsoever.
