Working 2 Jobs
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Not really, there are plenty of people wanting to do full time work, but many employers prefer part timers. Some activiely have part timers because you don't have tax or pension, issues with sick pay & holidays. Easier to dismiss part timers as well, and if they are a bit crap in their job you're not paying 40 hours a week to a useless person. Plus many other jobs don't simply require a 40 hour person. Nothing to do with "bad life choice"
Most I've had is four jobs (maybe five can't remember) at the same time, thankfully two were right door to each other.
seems like a pretty inefficient use of his time, bit silly of him tbh... not to mention possibly dangerous if he's moving heavy stuff around with the help of others while sleep deprived
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I've done some hours but no freaking way that bad
5:30am-6:30am one job casual worker 1 hour
Next door and do another job, minimum shift is 3 hours, max full day
Then another job 4:30pm-7:00pm
That casual worker job worked well in my case -casual worker allowed me to work hours, and days that I was not in the no 2 job
I gave up 5:30 to 6:30 as too early, but if I was off or shorter shift on no2 job, that topped me up. The retailer was a **** though, they used casual worker zero rights, I was damn good at the job, just people there back stabbing liars.
Also that casual worker job meant 20% tax as already over the tax threshold, so it wasn't worth doing hours really.
This sounds horribly racist but... he's Indian, and I have known many such people working such jobs/hours over the years. Low skilled, low wage, but together it adds up to a fairly decent amount of money. Apart from the obvious 'place in India' he will retire to, he's got a couple of houses here, so he's not doing too badly. Of course he's constantly dead on his feet but he's used to it.
Working more than one job is fairly common in the States I believe.
Personally I'm happy with my one job working under 22 hours a week
I don't actually receive payment as such as i get a flat,work have never made it clear i should make myself available for overtime,i do my contract hours and no more.
Last year my company took away my overtime rate and made it normal time instead of my double time,i wont work for normal time if im doing over my contacted hours and told them so,there are many ore like me who wont do the overtime any more,thats why my 2nd job came in the same time as this happened.
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Retail now is overtime, and in fact xmas ever, boxing, nye and nyd, and bank hols are same rate of pay. Pretty ****.
The shop I cleaned at brought in new contract, if you didn't sign it you basically are no longer employed (they got rid of double time)
Bank holidays are time and half where as i used to get a bit more,most of the bank holidays are my days off so dont work them anyway.
I'n reality my 2nd job pays half of my retails money and i only work 20 hours a month in the 2nd job so i would be mad to work more in my retail job than my second job.
I'n reality my 2nd job pays half of my retails money and i only work 20 hours a month in the 2nd job so i would be mad to work more in my retail job than my second job.
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Also personally it's great having two jobs.
Say if your primary job is a high stressed job or maybe very physically demanding, and being full time it's too much, mentally or physically. Say for example working in a forge, or sales/managing
And then your second job is easier physically and mentally. Second job is working say cleaning a home.
Plus having more jobs mean you have more contacts, your seocnd job could help you with others, or replace the ones you don't like, or maybe just casual worker or cash in hand. Or simply just meeting new people making new friends, or getting perks in the other jobs.
Say if your primary job is a high stressed job or maybe very physically demanding, and being full time it's too much, mentally or physically. Say for example working in a forge, or sales/managing
And then your second job is easier physically and mentally. Second job is working say cleaning a home.
Plus having more jobs mean you have more contacts, your seocnd job could help you with others, or replace the ones you don't like, or maybe just casual worker or cash in hand. Or simply just meeting new people making new friends, or getting perks in the other jobs.
Yeah our overtime all got savaged a couple of years back or so 
have to do something like 8 hours extra before any additional rates kick in now on fulltime and go over 37 or 38 hours or something on part time contracts and all the rates have slid down one bracket.
have to do something like 8 hours extra before any additional rates kick in now on fulltime and go over 37 or 38 hours or something on part time contracts and all the rates have slid down one bracket.I'm not knocking the work ethic just the use of time, if he wants to save money long term then perhaps some more time devoted in the short term to gaining some skills and then working in a higher paying job would be a bit more efficient. It just seems a bit sad to spend most of your waking hours devoted to doing something utterly mundane in order to squirrel away some cash for when you're old and eventually stop work.
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well for me I'm saving up for a house, once I pay off 50% deposit, I'll have a smaller mortage, so I don't need to work as much.
Unless I went into senior management, pay is pretty bad in this sector.
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Just had a quick look through my contract as this thread made me curious: not allowed a second job if it's paid, voluntary work is ok but employer has to consent. Seems quite reasonable as an FTE.
The scarier bit in there is that employer owns all IP I produce either as part of my role or on my own time - which completely sucks.
So write a killer app or game on my own time that has nothing to do with my industry or role - and they get the lot! Ouch!
The scarier bit in there is that employer owns all IP I produce either as part of my role or on my own time - which completely sucks.
So write a killer app or game on my own time that has nothing to do with my industry or role - and they get the lot! Ouch!
Well like I say or some may know, job 1 is retail, job 2 is as a porter within private healthcare, so not competitors in any way shape or form. Job 2 is something I've wanted to do for many years, and all those I've spoken to, or know someone whom does it, enjoys it. Job 2 that is. Plus getting a foot in the door, it may allow me to make a full time job of it, if all goes well. Then i'd be back to just the one job.
if you do decide to pursue something like that and consult a reassuringly expensive solicitor then you might find them advising you (depending on the side project) that it can't be enforced (especially if something completely different to your employer's industry)
sadly it is still an issue and could still lead to you having to waste time and money on legal fees etc..
Unless there is a connection to the main job it will almost definitely get laughed out of court - however if there is a unambiguous connection to the main job especially if they can demonstrate the main job played a critical role i.e. giving you access to tools or skills a completely different matter.
Nothing to stop you working 2 jobs as long as your working hours don't conflict and no need to tell them either. Although both employers will always insist that they are your "main" employer and that their demands come first, which is a load of bull. When working 2 part time jobs to get along in the world you got to look after number 1 (yourself).
In light of above I would say as long as a) The job was not in a direct conflict of interest (like competitor) to your present employer and b ) You are able to get a suitable break between shifts then you shouldn't have too much an issue.
If your current employer only employs you on a part time basis then you probably wont have an 'exclusivity' clause in your terms and conditions.
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If your current employer only employs you on a part time basis then you probably wont have an 'exclusivity' clause in your terms and conditions.
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I spent all of last year working two jobs, one day time office the other evening/weekend retail (CO-OP) my contract forced me to inform co-op i had a second job only issue would have arisen was if the other job conflicted with my contracted hours (it didnt contract hours where all days weekends) end up working crazy hours but knew it was temporary.
My only advice is dont do what i done. 7 day weeks all the time with weekdays looking at being 16 hours days it drains you physically and emotionally no money is worth it.
One summer a few years ago i also took bar work a long side the jobs too, that lasted a short time as closing a bar up then waking up to open a retail store on weekends was soul destroying.
I believe my contract said I had to inform co-op i was intending on taking a second job only once the job offer was made to me so basically just check your contract.
EDIT: Also over certain hours worked per week (combined between employers) I think you have to sign a document saying you're happy to work over x amount of hours.
My only advice is dont do what i done. 7 day weeks all the time with weekdays looking at being 16 hours days it drains you physically and emotionally no money is worth it.
One summer a few years ago i also took bar work a long side the jobs too, that lasted a short time as closing a bar up then waking up to open a retail store on weekends was soul destroying.
I believe my contract said I had to inform co-op i was intending on taking a second job only once the job offer was made to me so basically just check your contract.
EDIT: Also over certain hours worked per week (combined between employers) I think you have to sign a document saying you're happy to work over x amount of hours.